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WOMEN IN CHESS – A MATTER OF OPINION
Chessbase News ^ | Sept. 21, 2007 | Zahir Ahmadov

Posted on 09/21/2007 1:12:07 PM PDT by Marc Tumin

21.09.2007 – The recently ended International Women's Chess Tournament in Baku was a great success, with sponsors and organisers promising further such tournaments in the future. Our reporter Zahir Ahmadov used the opportunity to conduct an informal questionnaire on the state of women's chess: are men better at the game, and if so why. Interesting reactions.

Women In Chess

By Zahir Ahmadov

The Honorary President of FIDE Florencio Campomones said in the opening ceremony of the 2nd International Women’s Chess Championship in Baku that he hoped that this tournament would have an impact on the development of women’s chess in the future. But what is the problem with women’s chess? Do ladies perform worse than men because men do not support them much in terms of organizing tournaments? Or is it something innate that women play poorer than men?

Male chess players visiting the women's tournament in Baku: GM Vladislav Tkachiev, GM Teimour Radjabov, two chess fans, GM Shakhriyar Mamedyarov's friend and second, GM Rasul Ibrahimov and Mamedyarov himself.

With these thoughts in my mind I visited the venue of the 2nd International Women’s Chess Championship to ask the opinion of contesting female players themselves. I came before the start of round seven and while watching the games on big projectors in the hall chatted a bit with GM Rauf Mamedov, who is a really quite a hilarious personality.

“Women can never play like men simply because they are women. It is something innate. Have you ever seen women doing any better than men at anything?” Rauf said half seriously and half jokingly.

“Well, what about Judit [Polgar http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=12190]? She is one of the best 20 in the world,” I asked.

“She is just an exception.”

“Don’t you think that such exceptions might emerge in the future and we may have at least three or four ladies in top ten,” I asked.

“No. I do not think so. That will never happen,” Azerbaijan’s young male talent said resolutely.

I turned to another well-known GM who was sitting next to us and watching the games. I am not giving his name, as he wished to remain anonymous.

“What do you think about the moves? Do you find them inferior?” I asked him.

“No, why? Some moves are great,” he said.

“Which part of the game do female players play worse than men – the opening, the middlegame or the endgame?”

“I think they fail in endgames,” he replied.

“What about openings? I heard female players have also problems in memorizing lots of moves,” I asked.

“I think they play the opening better than us,” he said and smiled.

Finally, the first game to finish was Katya Lahno vs Nargiz Umudova, which Lahno won. I decided to interview Kateryna Lahno, to which she kindly agreed.

Z.A. How many hours do you prepare for chess every day?

K.L. It depends, but mostly I spend for chess five to six hours every day.

Z.A. Why do you think men play better than women?

K.L. I think men’s techniques are better than women’s?

Z.A. Well, but what is the reason for that?

K.L. The reason is different emotional tunings of the two genders. Women are more emotional than men, which is why they fail when it comes to nerves. Moreover, women are more nervous about different things. Most men would think that these are very tiny problems in life.

Z.A. Then what makes Judit different to other girls, who cannot make it to 2600 or over?

K.L. I think Judit started playing in her early ages. Moreover, she works hard on chess. This makes her different from others.

Z.A. What do you think about the future of women in chess? Do you think time will come when women will play just as strong as men?

K.L. That will probably happen sometime in the future, but I think that the number of strong female players will always be less than strong male players.

Lela Javakhishvili seemed to agree with the notion that men are better because they are stronger. But first I asked how much time she spends to chess every day.

L.J. When preparing for special events or tournaments I spend seven hours on chess every day, but on normal days my preparation does not exceed four hours.

Z.A. Why do you think women perform poorer than men in chess?

L.J. I think it is linked with their physical power?

Z.A. Physical power? But chess is about thinking?

L.J. Right, but female players become exhausted more quickly than men because they are weaker. That is why they may fail by the end of the game. Physical power may be decisive in many games. Take any game you want. For instance, in tennis women can never compete with men…

Z.A. You well might be right. However, there might be other reasons. Do you think that women perform poorer than men because historically they had more distractions than men, like chores at home? Even today, in our cultures women cannot spare time for chess like men, because they have lots of work at home. Is this the case with you?

L.J. No, I do not think that that is the reason. I do not have a brother to compare but I think even if I had one I still would find more time than him to devote to chess. Actually, it is my mother and sister who do the housework, not me. Therefore, I can find sufficient time for chess every day.

Z.A. Then what do you think about the future of women’s chess? Do you think women will be able to play like men?

L.J. I really don’t know. It is too difficult to answer.

Firuza Velikhanli won her second consecutive game against one of the leaders of the tournament, V. Cymilte, so I was sure that she would answer my tedious questions about the genders.

Z.A. Do you spend much time on chess?

F.V. Actually, I have spent no time on chess recently. To be more precise, I have not spent sufficient time on chess for the past year. I gave birth to my third child a month ago, so I did not have time to prepare. But I simply could not turn down the offer to take part at this tournament.

Z.A. May I ask you why men play better than women?

F.V. This has already been proved that women can play like men…

Z.A. How? Women can hardly make it to 2600, while only Judit is over 2700. The difference between her and her closest female follower is 135 points? Yet even Judit is not in top ten today…

F.V. Well, first I should say that Judit is a phenomenal lady. Second, the problem is that unlike men most women cannot devote their lives to chess. Personally, for me chess is not the most important thing in my life, my family is.

Z.A. Ainur Sofieva and you were strongest players of Azerbaijan about 15 or 20 years ago, but today many young males make GM norms in this country, easily exceeding your highest ratings. Meanwhile, Azeri female players are not among the best 50 female players in the world…

F.V. Ainur made a career for herself and did not devote herself to chess. I started spending my time with my family. As for the young generation of Azeri female players, I think they have always received less attention than boys in this country. Things are changing with the election of the new management of the chess federation. I hope more money will be spent for women chess in Azerbaijan in the future.

I think my conclusion was that even female players themselves accepted that men would always be better than them. I think I was a bit disappointed and that I wished to hear different answers, like “just wait a few more years and we will overtake men”. However, something in me says that time will prove these girls are wrong and future generations will witness equal play of women and men…

About the author

Zahir Ahmadov is a freelance reporter based in Baku. He works for an international non-governmental organization as a senior manager. An intermediate amature player, Zahir actively takes part in various chess forums in the Internet.

ENDS


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chess; hobbies; women

1 posted on 09/21/2007 1:12:09 PM PDT by Marc Tumin
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Isn’t chess kind of a ridiculous thing to be spending 7 hours a day on? It’s a freaking board game.


3 posted on 09/21/2007 1:22:42 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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I guess it’s just as ridiculous as golf, fishing, poker or any other recreation people are able to play professionally. Unfortunately, now that computers have become virtually unbeatable, I believe it will either lose a lot of it’s appeal or it will evolve into something such as Bobby Fischer’s random chess. In random chess the pieces on the back rank are randomly placed so it becomes a little more dynamic, and less dependent on memorizations of opening lines and theories. There are some very strong women players, such as the polgar sisters. I just think that it’s encouraged enough for females to pick up the game early, more than any inherent female deficiencies. I would estimate there are at least twenty times the number of male chess players as female, and think it’s more of a societal thing. If ya get bored, look up the pay outs for some of the larger tournaments, you’ll see why they “waste” their time. If you are a world class player, there is quite a bit of money in it. Having said all this, I am afraid it might make people go insane ala Bobby Fischer. Gesh what a nut job he turned out to be.


4 posted on 09/21/2007 2:11:55 PM PDT by Carolina_Thor (It's always better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: Marc Tumin

Guess I’m gonna be first to notice that if men had said the same things as the women chess players then all hell would break loose :)


5 posted on 09/21/2007 2:14:49 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: Nonstatist

Do you find it ridiculous to spend 7-8 hours a day at your job, cause for these people that is what it is. A job.


6 posted on 09/21/2007 2:22:54 PM PDT by evandam1
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To: Marc Tumin

7 posted on 09/21/2007 2:24:40 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: evandam1
, cause for these people that is what it is

Very, very few can make a living at this. The winner of major tournaments often comes home with no more than a couple grand

As someone else mentioned, the best computer can beat the best player, so whats the point ? (of traditional chess, that is)

8 posted on 09/21/2007 2:27:04 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Marc Tumin

9 posted on 09/21/2007 2:28:51 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

She is really good, she moved my rook without touching it.


10 posted on 09/21/2007 4:07:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: Marc Tumin
It's obvious: the rules are discriminatory and need to be changed. There should also be an expressive/discursive component built into tournament scoring.

When Hillary is President, things like this will get fixed.

11 posted on 09/21/2007 4:18:08 PM PDT by sphinx
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It’s like a lot of things. I recall an interview with a top-notch bridge player years back; he was asked who are better bridge players - men or women. His answer, “Women are better, but men are best.” Men tend to the extreme of the Bell curve on many levels...intelligence, violent psychopaths, bridge excellence,cooking, you name it. Women tend to the middle - tending not to the ends where the extremes tend to be men. It’s just nature’s way, folks.


12 posted on 09/21/2007 4:27:48 PM PDT by szweig (Had it up to here)
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To: Nonstatist
Isn’t chess kind of a ridiculous thing to be spending 7 hours a day on? It’s a freaking board game.

It's a creative pursuit requiring visualization, imagination, analysis and courage. It is a struggle of wills. But most of all it is beautiful.

13 posted on 09/21/2007 4:41:51 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Marc Tumin; All

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION CHESS!!!!!


14 posted on 09/21/2007 4:51:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nonstatist
I started chess very late in my teens, but once I figured out that I really enjoyed the game I averaged over 10 games a day. Never over 20 games, though, I didn’t want to be a chess freak.

I had roommates in college who played poker and blackjack probably 20 - 30 hours a week, bunched into 8 - 10 hour sessions. At the start of the year they would often play until 4 AM, until they knew who to play and who not to play.

I had some great friendships within the chess community, and we watched the situation in Iran become very dangerous in the late 70s. Played with Iranians, Indians, Chinese, Vietnamese and lots of Europeans.

For some reason I didn’t date a lot. Wonder why.

15 posted on 09/22/2007 11:36:11 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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This is an old thread... but I wondering if there is a safe site to download a free chess game to my computer.


16 posted on 01/09/2009 5:46:27 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: diamond6
Since my chess skills have atrophied I play Chess Titans available freely in Windows Vista. It's lame by commercial standards, but so am I. Maybe two games a day or so.

Free chess programs have changed as the simulations have advanced. All modern programs are really front ends onto a database of chess moves. The granddaddy of on-line chess is FICS here:

http://www.freechess.org/

To download a program look here:

http://www.chesscentral.com/chess_download/Free_Chess_Software.htm

and here:

http://www.chesszone.org/soft/playchess.html

Hope it helps.

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17 posted on 01/10/2009 8:12:41 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: texas booster

Thank you for your help!!!


18 posted on 01/12/2009 1:23:44 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: diamond6

ping


19 posted on 03/19/2009 11:48:07 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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