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Global Taxation Treaty (UNCLOS, LOST) ComesBefore U.S. Senate
USA Survival News ^ | 9/11/07 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 09/20/2007 5:15:17 AM PDT by foxfield

The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)is the biggest giveaway of American sovereignty and resources since Jimmy Carter’s Panama Canal Treaty. It creates a global tax on American companies and turns the riches of the oceans, including oil, gas and minerals, over to the United Nations.

 

Defending America? The U.S. Navy is now committed to a "global maritime network" under "hundreds of flags."


The 202-page treaty document was described by the late leftist Senator Alan Cranston as "the most far-reaching and comprehensive system created thus far by the global community." UNCLOS mandates a global tax on corporations which exploit ocean resources, an International Seabed Authority to collect the revenue, and an International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea to govern ocean affairs. It also:

UNCLOS was written by members and supporters of the World Federalist movement, a group dedicated to world government through passage of treaties and expansion of the U.N.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: lost; unclos
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The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations is holding hearings on Sept 27. Are any FReepers paying attention to this?
1 posted on 09/20/2007 5:15:20 AM PDT by foxfield
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To: foxfield

Do we get to ELIMINATE all foreign aid then??


2 posted on 09/20/2007 5:19:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: foxfield; Carry_Okie; Noumenon; hosepipe; hellinahandcart; AuntB; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave

Yes.


3 posted on 09/20/2007 5:21:28 AM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: foxfield; Politicalmom
The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations is holding hearings on Sept 27. Are any FReepers paying attention to this?

I think a thread was posted on this topic but I will ping PoliticalMom who has a Congress ping list.
4 posted on 09/20/2007 5:23:05 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: foxfield
Persistence will ultimately erode our sovereignty. LOST has been around for decades and yet still surfaces.

Unless the UN is dissolved or we remove ourselves from it, which is not ever going to happen, they will ultimately achieve their objectives. Wilson and FDR killed this country.

5 posted on 09/20/2007 5:25:03 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

“Unless the UN is dissolved or we remove ourselves from it, which is not ever going to happen, they will ultimately achieve their objectives. Wilson and FDR killed this country.”

I think I remeber hearing Tancredo saying something about getting out of the UN. I really wish all Americans/conservatives would get up to speed on the two real conseratives in this presidential race.


6 posted on 09/20/2007 5:38:13 AM PDT by wilco200
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To: Elsie
“Do we get to ELIMINATE all foreign aid then??”

Sure! Then we can spend all that money on new missile systems and space-based weaponry. If our armed forces have limited movement, we’ll need to adapt.

7 posted on 09/20/2007 5:41:30 AM PDT by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: foxfield

It is way past time to evict these SOB’s out of our country and cancel our membership in this corrupt organization!!


8 posted on 09/20/2007 5:48:42 AM PDT by taillightchaser (!)
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To: wilco200
Yep, unfortunately the GOP would never allow for them to receive the nomination.

Only the people could FORCE a change and IMO would be justified in doing it. The big problem is that we are so divided as nation along lines that are irreconcilable. We would need to have the courage to fight other citizens, unpatriotic and disloyal to be sure but citizens none the less. Political solutions will not work for any duration, just look at what politics has done to our rights and constitution.

9 posted on 09/20/2007 5:49:16 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: foxfield

How do these morons even consider this?


10 posted on 09/20/2007 5:50:24 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Archon of the East
Persistence will ultimately erode our sovereignty. LOST has been around for decades and yet still surfaces.

It is happening with the Bushes leading the way. Too bad we can't expect this Bush to be like Reagan. We need a veto if nothing else.

11 posted on 09/20/2007 6:00:58 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Man50D

Thank you for taking this issue seriously.

There have been a lot of threads. Unfortunately they all seem to degenerate into silliness and superficiality.


12 posted on 09/20/2007 6:05:45 AM PDT by foxfield
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To: George W. Bush; pissant; Calpernia

Here they come again.

LOST...get lost!


13 posted on 09/20/2007 6:15:36 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: foxfield

I’m paying attention; but I’m confused.

UN ratification documents and the U.S.A. ratified LOST August 1996

http://www.un.org/Depts/los/reference_files/status2007.pdf

This ratification has a footnote that stated not to be enacted until December 2001. See it at that PDF file.

The Bush Administration has a dispute or recapitulate opened about the LOST Treaty.

http://www.un.org/Depts/los/settlement_of_disputes/choice_procedure.htm

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Declaration:

“In accordance with article 30 (4) of the Agreement, the Government of the United States of America declares that it chooses a special arbitral tribunal to be constituted in accordance with Annex VIII of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982 for the settlement of disputes pursuant to Part VIII of the Agreement.”

From what I understand in reading the UN site, the Bush Administration is trying to get LOST revised, not revived. Because it was signed in 1996.


14 posted on 09/20/2007 6:38:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

bump


15 posted on 09/20/2007 6:40:11 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
UN ratification documents and the U.S.A. ratified LOST August 1996

Go back to the pdf you posted. Scroll down until you get to the US.

Now look at what column we're in....Agreement for the implementation of the provisions---blah, blah.

This section has to do with Treaty Doc. 104-24, fisheries. We are a party to that.

[snip}

Editors’ Summary: The 1996 Sustainable Fisheries Act is arguably the most significant federal environmental legislation enacted in the last two de- cades. The Act applies sustainability principles and approaches such as biodiversity protection, externality internalization, and precaution to ad- vance fisheries sustainability within the U.S. EEZ. In this Article, Prof. Richard Hildreth details the U.S. attempt at moving toward more sustain- able fisheries management. He outlines the global legal framework govern- ing ocean resources, and then focuses on the multilateral and bilateral fish- eries agreements to which the United States is a party. Finally, he describes how the SFAincorporates the sustainability principles embodied in these in- ternational agreements.

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special arbitral tribunal

Every country that signs up to lost must choose a venue to have their cases heard.

From what I understand in reading the UN site, the Bush Administration is trying to get LOST revised, not revived. Because it was signed in 1996.

He's tweaking it. In 1996, Treaty Doc.104-24 was agreed upon.

Here's some sites that may help. A little info in all of them

http://law.richmond.edu/library/pubs/admiralty/ch14.htm

http://www.cnie.org/nle/crsreports/04Jan/RL32185.pdf

Achieving Fisheries Sustainability in the United States
Treaty Doc. 104-24

Issue Analysis

In here during lunch. Will be back later.

16 posted on 09/20/2007 10:30:43 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

What is part XI of the convention that has been in force as of July 1996?

There is a lot more here than we know. It is laid out in a confusing manner. Why sign onto items in 1996 that aren’t to take affect until 2001?


17 posted on 09/20/2007 10:42:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia
What is part XI of the convention that has been in force as of July 1996?

Try here.

http://193.178.1.205/international-law/TheLawoftheSea.asp

See ya after classes.

18 posted on 09/20/2007 10:56:24 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Calpernia
Deep Seabed Mining

I really gotta go this time. Bye

19 posted on 09/20/2007 11:09:07 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Calpernia
ARTICLE 30 Procedures for the settlement of disputes 1. The provisions relating to the settlement of disputes set out in Part XV of the Convention apply mutatis mutandis to any dispute between States Parties to this Agreement concerning the interpretation or application of this Agreement, whether or not they are also Parties to the Convention. 2. The provisions relating to the settlement of disputes set out in Part XV of the Convention apply mutatis mutandis to any dispute between States Parties to this Agreement concerning the interpretation or application of a subregional, regional or global fisheries agreement relating to straddling fish stocks or highly migratory fish stocks to which they are parties, including any dispute concerning the conservation and management of such stocks, whether or not they are also Parties to the Convention. 3. Any procedure accepted by a State Party to this Agreement and the Convention pursuant to article 287 of the Convention shall apply to the settlement of disputes under this Part, unless that State Party, when signing, ratifying or acceding to this Agreement, or at any time thereafter, has accepted another procedure pursuant to article 287 for the settlement of disputes under this Part. 4. A State Party to this Agreement which is not a Party to the Convention, when signing, ratifying or acceding to this Agreement, or at any time thereafter, shall be free to choose, by means of a written declaration, one or more of the means set out in article 287, paragraph 1, of the Convention for the settlement of disputes under this Part. Article 287 shall apply to such a declaration, as well as to any dispute to which such State is a party which is not covered by a declaration in force. For the purposes of conciliation and arbitration in accordance with Annexes V, VII and VIII to the Convention, such State shall be entitled to nominate conciliators, arbitrators and experts to be included in the lists referred to in Annex V, article 2, Annex VII, article 2, and Annex VIII, article 2, for the settlement of disputes under this Part. 5. Any court or tribunal to which a dispute has been submitted under this Part shall apply the relevant provisions of the Convention, of this Agreement and of any relevant subregional, regional or global fisheries agreement, as well as generally accepted standards for the conservation and management of living marine resources and other rules of international law not incompatible with the Convention, with a view to ensuring the conservation of the straddling fish stocks and highly migratory fish stocks concerned.

Annex VIII---What are you confused about on this?

20 posted on 09/20/2007 1:12:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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