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Spector jury says it's deadlocked
Cnn.com ^ | Sept 18, 2007 | CNN

Posted on 09/18/2007 2:04:25 PM PDT by RDTF

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To: ElkGroveDan
Get me their names when it's all over and we will find that more than half of them are from somewhere East of St. Louis.

Imported or homegrown - what's the difference?

They're all Californians now.

41 posted on 09/18/2007 2:40:21 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Nonstatist

I dunno about that. It seems like it would be pretty hard to put a gun in a girl’s mouth without knocking a few teeth out and messing up her lips a bit. Unless, of course she let him do it, which seems kind of unlikely.

I mean, the guy is a dirtball and I wouldn’t put it past him, but how does it happen that way?


42 posted on 09/18/2007 2:41:01 PM PDT by anton
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To: MrLee

It probably wasn’t intentional? That a gun was forced into her mouth? And then the trigger was pulled?
How do you accidentally shove a gun into someone’s mouth and accidentally pull the trigger?


43 posted on 09/18/2007 2:44:40 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: hgro
Its not too hard to figure out the winner here. Its the high priced legal talent this murderer can afford.

Exactly. With enough money to hire enough experts to nitpick every detail, you can buy reasonable doubt. This trial turned into months of testimony about blood splatter theory.

44 posted on 09/18/2007 2:45:23 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: ElkGroveDan
Phil Spector is from The Bronx

Born there maybe, but raised in LA -- he went to Fairfax High in Los Angeles, the same high school that Jack Kemp went to.

45 posted on 09/18/2007 2:50:43 PM PDT by speedy
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To: dead
I’m pretty confident that Phil Spector has no idea what happened that night, and never will.

Agreed. I think they were both blotto. The prosecution probably would have got a conviction if the charge was manslaughter.

46 posted on 09/18/2007 2:53:50 PM PDT by JennysCool (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: alisasny
Sane people also have jobs and cant afford 5 months off of work even if getting paid. Sane people like their jobs and want success. 5 months off in some jobs could be a death warrant in itself.

I've always thought juries should be drawn from a pool of retired volunteers with demonstrable records of life achievement who can also pass a test on civics.

Cut down the idiocy by 95%, anyway.

47 posted on 09/18/2007 2:55:34 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: RDTF

If there is any lawyer in the country who knows how to get to jury members, it’s Cutler, he’s had a lot of experience in New York.


48 posted on 09/18/2007 2:57:12 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Scotswife

I wasn’t there. The 2 people who were are either dead or was too drunk to remember anything. Unless Spector remembers the events and someday talks we’ll never know for sure. I don’t believe he sat her down and just shot her but she was obviously shot “somehow” and Spector bears some of the responsibilty-that’s obvious.
Justice sometimes has to wait for the next life, but it will be meeted out.

He ain’t free yet btw, and even if let go, will he ever really be free?


49 posted on 09/18/2007 2:57:20 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: RDTF

And how many of the jurors already have book contracts lined up?


50 posted on 09/18/2007 2:58:27 PM PDT by Tall_Texan ("The Democrat Party: Where Victory Is Not An Option")
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To: Right Cal Gal; pogo101

Don’t get me wrong, I wanna see him get locked up for the rest of his life. But the same people who already had him convicted a day or two ago, are now screaming that he was set-up.

And all you need is one person on his jury who thinks that the police are out to get OJ.


51 posted on 09/18/2007 2:59:43 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: ElkGroveDan

You know that Dianne Feinstein, Babs Boxer and Nanny State Pelosi are ALL from other states, right? As was Joe “Gray” Davis. It drives my husband (a CA native) crazy to hear them called “Californians.”


52 posted on 09/18/2007 3:00:07 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: bill1952
Try that in Fresno County. Look at the footer on every page of FR. That's where we are: in the literal heart of California.
53 posted on 09/18/2007 3:03:09 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: RDTF

He’s a rebel!


54 posted on 09/18/2007 3:03:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: MrLee

“I wasn’t there. The 2 people who were are either dead or was too drunk to remember anything.”

Wrong again.
The driver was there waiting in his car.
He saw Specter standing in the doorway with the gun in his hand and he said “I think I killed somebody”

Later when police photos were taken, the gun was placed underneath the woman’s left leg.

” I don’t believe he sat her down and just shot her but she was obviously shot “somehow” and Spector bears some of the responsibilty-that’s obvious.”

There was a parade of women brought in who told the same story.
That when they told Phil it was time for them to go - they suddenly found a gun being pointed in their faces.

This woman had her purse still on her shoulder.
Probably she - like the others- grabbed her purse and announced she was leaving.


55 posted on 09/18/2007 3:06:32 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

“The driver was there waiting in his car.
He saw Specter standing in the doorway with the gun in his hand and he said “I think I killed somebody””

I meant in the room when it happened.

Anyway, you’re probably right. I’m not arguing.

No matter how or who, etc , it’s a darn shame and he will get his judgement, as I said, in this life or the next. You can’t escape His judgement.


56 posted on 09/18/2007 3:11:45 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: MrLee

It’s just too bad when a case is so obvious as this one is - that they can’t manage to agree on the obvious.

The defense tried to portray her as suicidal.
That still doesn’t explain how she managed to find Specter’s loaded gun in a drawer when she had never been there before.

What a coincidence a lady would kill herself in the home of a guy who’s in the habit of threatening women by waving guns in their faces.
Think of the odds.


57 posted on 09/18/2007 3:14:15 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Then thank God for Fresno and it’s people.

Lets see you turn that state around.


58 posted on 09/18/2007 3:22:42 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Scotswife

The Judge may give the Jury the option of finding him guilty of involuntary manslaughter when they come back tomorrow morning.


59 posted on 09/18/2007 3:25:07 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Dan, you change things over there.

You will have my unmitigated and enduring respect.
Along with millions of others, I suspect.

Hell, just change from winner takes all to a proportionate share for electors, and the face of the body politic in America will change for decades

60 posted on 09/18/2007 3:30:21 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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