Posted on 09/17/2007 5:11:52 AM PDT by IrishMike
As one of his supporters, actor Robert Duvall, might say: Rudy played this one beautifully.
Last week, all Republican politicians worth their weight came out blasting MoveOn.org for taking out a full-page ad in the New York Times smearing Gen. David Petraeus on the day he was scheduled to deliver his Iraq progress report to Congress. The outrage among conservatives only grew as leading Democrats failed to condemn the ad, Hillary Clinton questioned the general's honesty, and it was disclosed that the far left group was given a drastically reduced advertising rate in the New York Times.
But while other Republicans complained, Rudy Giuliani did something about it. Speaking to reporters in Atlanta on Thursday, Giuliani demanded that the New York Times give his campaign the same discounted rate so it could take out an ad defending Gen. Petraeus and assailing Clinton and MoveOn.org for "character assassination of an American general in a time of war." He also called on the paper to run the ad at the time of his choosing (Friday, the day after President Bush's primetime address to the nation).
The next morning, American liberals had to spit out their soy milk while reading their paper of record over breakfast.
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Two words: Fred Thompson.
This week, his schedule has no public events at all, limiting his appearances to fund-raisers in Florida, Tennessee and Texas.
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I’m with you but I’d like a little more action.
I would have agreed with this article had Rudy fulfilled his true destiny, which was to run against Hillary for the Senate last election. Then we wouldn’t have to be having this discussion about vanquishing her in the presidential race.
aint a lick of difference between Rooty and the Hildabeastie.
EXACTLY!!! Without Fred in the race Rudy probably would have been silent
Guliani is a good man, and a good fighter. Tragically, he’s not a conservative.
Rudy’s game plan for beating Hitlery is to “out Hillary” her. About the only real issue they do not agree on (and they once did) is Iraq/WOT. Otherwise, they are both Socialist, Gun-grabbing, tax-loving, abortion-supporting, gay-catering Liberals.
Agree 100%......
There’s a hell of a lot of difference between them and it’s clear that Rudy could win; it’s nowhere near as clear that Thompson could win.
The Clintons kicked our arses everytime they have run.
I think Rudy would make a fine press secretary for either president Thompson or President Hunter.
I disgree. Bill Clinton never won a majority in his presidential runs. There will be NO Ross Perot to foul us up this go round!!
I’ve always like Rudy when he takes on the bad guys like he did with Al Sharptongue as mayor.
Going after Hillary last week was beautiful.
Of course I’m not here to endorse Rudy but I have to admit
I liked it.
Rudy has definitely tied himself to some bad ideas as mayor of New York City.
Its time to look at the field and consider the options with John McCain and Ron Paul already in my trashbin.
We either take the big guys with warts or a real conservative with some principles but not a lot of money or popularity in polls.
My strategy of knocking the big guys around in the early states with tactical voting depending on state (keep the leading ones from breaking out by confusing the results) has some definite appeal.
The Clintons kicked our arses everytime they have run.
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Chances are if not for the prostrate cancer, Rudy would have been R Senator NY, and the beast would have to find another baseball team to be a lifelong fan of.
Hunter is a conservative, unlike Guilianni, Hunter doesn’t look ten to twenty years older than he should, unlike Thompson, isn’t a flip-flopper and Mormon Bishop, unlike Romney, etc. etc.
This is an interesting time.
I don’t think we’ll see much Republican on Republican violence.
Republican candidates plan to distinguish themselves from rivals and gain GOP support by seeing who can bash Hillary the most.
To me, this election is almost about keeping Hillary out of the White House.
Good on you, Rudy! Kicking libs right between the lies and getting a price break at the same time!
Doing the work that other members of the GOP seem to be unwilling (or too nice) to do.
then you vote for that gun grabing, cross dressing abortionist.
Leftist Rudy is NO CONSERVATIVE.
Giuliani had to shell out $64,575 for an ad in The New York Times----Rooty "said" the ad was paid for by "contributions" to his presidential campaign.
ROTFLMSO. "Campaign contributions?" Now I've heard everything.
Rooty is a four-carat phony. Giuliani purportedly earns one million a month----he needs campaign contributions to run ads like he needs a hole in the head.
Now, who wants to hazard a guess as to which offshore account Rooty's ad money was transferred from?
Giuliani companies (that we know of) include:
(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),
(2) Giuliani Group,
(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner),
(4) Giuliani-Van Essen,
(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests), and,
(6) Giuliani Security & Safety, Asia
Was the ad money from Bracewell & Giuliani's January closings from accounts in Almaty, Kazakhstan (in the Crimea), totalling $1.625 Billion in billings.
Was the ad money from Bracewell & Giuliani's Cintra account? Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company (lobbied for Privatization of Toll Road in Texas)
Was the ad money from Bracewell & Giuliani's Banco Santander Central Hispano, S.A. (SAN.MC, STD.N) (a bank that traded with a blacklisted Iranian Bank)
Was the ad money from the company account tied to Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chávez, who has called President Bush "the devil." Bracewell & Giuliani lobbies on behalf of Texas-based Citgo Petroleum, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Venezuelan oil company controlled by Chávez.
Sweet Jesus, there's so, many many ways money can travel over the bounding waves to campaign accounts.
The beast is the weakest link for the dRATS, target wise.
Yes, and that’s also how Rudi plans to beat Fred.
Fred will do the same, attacking Hillary to beat Rudi.
The GOP and conservatives want to know who can beat Hillary. That man will get the nod.
I think FDT is Hillary's dream opponent.
He minimizes her weaknesses (that she's old and tired, because he's older and tireder) and he has a courtly manner which will either inhibit him from kicking her sorry ass OR will take him out of character.
“To me, this election is almost about keeping Hillary out of the White House.”
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There is no “almost” about it!
If Hillary had succeeded David Dinkins on January 1, 1993, would she have:
Cut crime by locking up criminals, or whined about root causes? Chased pornographers out of family neighborhoods, or preached about "artistic freedom"? Denounced the Brooklyn Museum for blasphemy and tried to cut their funding, or attended their dung-covered Virgin Mary exhibit? Cut welfare rolls and made recipients work for their money, or tried to raise taxes further to subsidize an aberrant and destructive lifestyle? Cut the size and shape of the rancid municipal hospital system, or tried to make it the standard for every one? Would she have slapped down the leftist press every single blessed day for eight whole years? Would she have refused NYPD protection for Yasser Arafat, effectively confining him to his hotel and the UN building?
Like him or don't. Vote for whomever you want.
But don't be absurd.
My opinion is that Giuliani has already had his chance to match up with Hillary... For the NY senate seat.
His performance does not persuade me to give him a second chance.
Rudy could not get elected mayor of NYC as true conservative.
I think we know the answers to your hypotheticals. I will take Rudy in a heartbeat over any of the Dems. No, he is no conservative, but he’s a heckuva lot better than the alternative. Till he gets the nomination - if he gets it I mean - I’m for Hunter.
As a NYer born under LaGuardia and who finally left under Bloomberg, who worked in the streets, backyards, basements and on the rooftops, day and night in Harlem, el Barrio, Washington Heights and the South Bronx for the last year and a half of Dinkins and the first six of Rudy, I’ve come to one conclusion. If Rudy could do for the country just half of what he did for the city, Americans would be pretty happy.
just check the FR Poll near the bottom of the forum page to see how Rooty stands up in conservative circles....
Wow !
Remind me to never get on your bad side........:o)
Good work Liz.
I personally am sooo tired of the professional pork pandering polidiots I could puke. I would love to see em all flushed from congress in 08 and 2010. This nation is so in need of getting back to it’s basics as a republic it is scary and dangerous. I recently heard of a freeper here (Matt Bracken) being called a nativist by the SPLC in a book review due his authoring a fictional book called Enemies, Foreign and Domestic.
Having no real understanding of the word nativist I know now that it means a person who puts their country before all others . This is a bad thing ? I consider it a prerequisite to be an American. Not a fence sitting hyphenated American but a naturalized American or one born to American parents.
I am a nativist who wants to save my country while our polidiots pretend to want to save the world. Pandering to peons for pennies per se.
Just my opinions of course.......:o)
Stay safe Liz !
Rudy is both a socialist and a fascist.....(national socialist? now there is a concept.)
What Rudy did for NY he did by throwing the constitution out the window. Good for NY? Maybe, but as the magazine cover says, his crap, wont play in Peoria.
I think Rudy’s past experience of fighting organized crime will serve him well in this fight with organized crime-the Klintoon machine.
It's easy to forget that Giuliani probably would have lost a re-election bid for mayor of New York City if he were running in November of 2000.
Yep, he knows where all the Clinton bodies are buried, that is for sure!
FNC is having Guiliani-gasms because the nominee for AG is from NY.
Guiliani there are other candidates who are stong or stronger on the war.
NYC Rino vs NYC Socialist is hardly a dramatic race.
I don’t understand your point. Rudy Giuliani is the solution to problems that most Americans don’t have.
Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Here's the thing: we're electing a President of the UNITED STATES.
I understand that Fred is ahead in the race for President of FR. In the race for President of FR, Fred will kill Hillary.
For President of the USA? Not so much.
I was born under Impellitteri but Wagner is the first mayor I can remember.
I was born in Brooklyn, lived in Manhattan 1976-79, and left right before Dinkens.
It's an f'ing MIRACLE what Rudy did, and the idea that Hillary would have done 10% of what Rudy did, or that they are basically the same, is just ridiculous.
LOL----you could never do that.
However, those who have, NEVER forget the experience.
Giuliani demanded that the New York Times give his campaign the same discounted rate
I Want The Same Rate Honey
Or I'll Scream Sexism!!!
Who gives a rat's patoot what a lisping cross dresser has to say.
I may vote for Rudy in the General Election (probably but not 100% sure of that), but will fight to my last breath make sure the choice is NOT....Rudy.
We stand to loose as much if not more in some ways under Rudy.....
Fred can and will beat the Hildabeastie.
Sexism only exists if there are people of both sexes involved.....(LOL)
Didn’t he refuse a check from a moslim dictator, was it the the saudi’s? after 9/11?
There are several different options for treating prostate cancer. One is the one Kerry opted for--surgery. Giuliani chose a different option to treatment which involved a three step approach. He began the third phase in late November.
Mr. Giuliani announced April 27 that he had prostate cancer in an early, treatable form. Three weeks later, citing his illness, he withdrew from the Senate race. He also began preliminary hormone treatments to lower the levels of prostate-specific antigens in his blood. In September he underwent the implantation of radioactive seeds in his prostate gland.
Mr. Giuliani's doctors had said that the seeds would emit radiation for about two months, after which a third phase of treatment, the external beam radiation, would begin. The goal of the second and third phases is to eradicate the cancer.
A snot-nosed Saudi prince oozed over to City Hall and offered Rudy a ten million dollar check, I suppose in recognition that the terrorists were almost all from the Kingdom.
Of course, the prince had to make a few remarks, among which were that fact that it was America's support of Israel that made his little people so upset.
Hizzoner then handind him back the check, said, ;thanks, but no thanks", humiliating him and his masters in front of the national and world press.
I've never seen a US politician who cared less about the New York press, when that press was in a position to hurt him.
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