Posted on 09/16/2007 9:14:45 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
When was the last mayor elected President?
And, if two senators win their respective nominations, one is going to win!
Bingo. And the neocons better wake up and realize real Conservatives are not going to tolerate their overspending, expansion of government, and ill advised military adventures oversees in the name of "bipartisan unity"
“The single-issue voters are supporters of RINO Rudy.”
From what I read and gather from many FR posts, many single issue voters won’t vote for Rudy due to their opposition to abortion.
They care only about the war on terror and are dedicated to moving the GOP to the left.
If you think Giuliani is only liberal on abortion, you haven’t been paying attention. It pro-illegal immigration, a gun-grabber, believes in man-made global warming, supports the homosexual agenda and has been trying to redefine what a strict Constitutionalist judge is.
Rudy Giuliani fails on about 75% of the issues, so there are dozens of different “single-issue voters” who would refuse to vote for him — all of them for different reasons.
Please reread my post.
The last man elected directly from the House of Representatives was James A. Garfield in 1880--Lincoln had served one term in Congress but that was more than a decade before he was elected President. And he only got 39% of the popular vote.
It's said that some Presidents (Eisenhower, Taylor) had never voted for the office until they ran for it.
They had been career soldiers and either had moved around too much to consider registering, or didn't think it right to have a say in determining civil authorities.
Another long-standing historical factoid is that no mayor of New York has ever gone on to a higher office. That one's actually not true.
DeWitt Clinton served as mayor of New York City and later as governor of the state in the early 19th century, and Fernando Wood was elected to Congress in 1862, after having been mayor.
But certainly it holds for 20th century mayors of the city, whose attempts to win senatorial, gubernatorial or presidential nominations and elections all came to naught.
Grover Cleveland and Calvin Coolidge were both former mayors (Buffalo, NY and Northampton, MA), but both went on to serve as governors of their respective states before becoming President.
Theodore Roosevelt ran for mayor of New York in 1886, when he was only 28 and lost.
There's more here.
I understand your post. All I’m saying is that there are just as many “single issue” gun rights supporters (for example) who won’t vote for him as there are pro-life voters.
Of which I wholeheartedly agree.
My response was to another poster who had the opinion, as stated on a previous post, that “The single-issue voters are supporters of RINO Rudy.”(#40).
Now there is this contradictory post from the same poster:
“Rudy Giuliani fails on about 75% of the issues, so there are dozens of different “single-issue voters” who would refuse to vote for him — all of them for different reasons.”
Neoconservative1 was what liberals called William F. Buckley and other post-New-Deal conservatives in the 1950s.
Neoconservative2 refers to the ex-liberals and ex-socialists who moved to the right in the Sixties, Seventies, and Eighties.
Neoconservative3 refers to the people most actively promoting war with Iraq and Iran.
Neoconservative4 refers to anybody less conservative than the person using the expression.
The thing is Neoconservatives3 aren't necessarily Neoconservatives1, Neoconservative2, or Neoconservative4.
Neoconservative1 has gone out of use. Those people simply became conservatives.
Neoconservatives2 are also getting pretty old now, and don't play an active role in politics, though some of their kids, who were never on the left, do.
Some of the people who are most Neoconservative3 are quite conservative in other areas.
And not all Neoconservative4 are that hawkish.
... Maybe not. It gets kind of hard to read ...
I’m the one who posted the second point, but I didn’t post the first one.
Actually, you posted neither, but another in between.
And it seems you may have confused my post with offering any kind of “opinion” about Rudy. At this point I have ruled out only 1 candidate running as a “pubbie”. And it is not Rudy by the way.
TR was McKinley's running mate in 1900 and got to be President when McKinley was assassinated. So WFB, a failed mayoral candidate, would more naturally fit on the ticket as VP. He wouldn't be the oldest VP candidate ever--he'll be 82 at the time of the 2008 election, younger than the man the Democrats nominated for VP in 1904.
you are a beast supporter, right?
the words of a true beast supporter
“They may well be back in Washington again. “
If Rudy gets the nomination, Hillary wins, because the base will stay home. The DNC is praying to whatever infernal gods they worship that Rudy gets the nod.
The base likes Rudy...likes him a lot...but his social positions, softness on illegal aliens, and hostility to gun ownership makes him a no go.
I don’t support any liberal, Hillary or Giuliani.
Obviously, Rooty is your guy!
LOL, no need to try “myths” on me, I remember EVENTS well, thanks!
“the words of a true beast supporter”
I vote forst and foremost on social issues. Second on illegal immigration. Third on 2nd amendment issues. Pray tell, why would I support Trudy?
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