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Neocon hawks go all-out for Giuliani
NY Daily News ^ | 09/16/07 | DAVID SALTONSTALL

Posted on 09/16/2007 9:14:45 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

They are officially known as Rudy Giuliani's senior foreign policy advisory board, but they also could be dubbed something else: Neocons For Rudy.

As in neoconservatives, the Republican faction that many see as among the most potent forces of Bush-era Washington - a well-funded, sharply analytical bunch that provided the ideological basis for invading Iraq and is now training its cross hairs on Iran. ---snip--- Giuliani's neocon roster includes Norman Podhoretz, a founding father of the movement; Charles Hill, a former foreign policy official for President Ronald Reagan and early backer of invading Iraq; Martin Kramer, an expert on Islam at Harvard University and staunch defender of Israel, and Daniel Pipes, director of the hawkish Middle East Forum.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charleshill; danielpipes; giuliani; hawks; martinkramer; neocons; podhoretz
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1 posted on 09/16/2007 9:14:46 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen
Everything else about Rudy Guiliani is liberal. But on foreign policy, he's a muscular Ronald Reagan. The last best hope of the neo-cons? They may well be back in Washington again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/16/2007 9:17:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Pipes is supporting Rudy? Uhhhhhhhg.


3 posted on 09/16/2007 9:18:06 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: goldstategop

He claims he will apoint conservative judges so that may be a comfort..


4 posted on 09/16/2007 9:19:42 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Aztlan My Azz: La Raza is Spanish for Tan Klan)
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To: Kid Shelleen
By this article’s definition, I’m a neo-Con

I will not vote for Rudy and ANY circumstances. And yes, I have heard all about the ... not voting for Rudy is a vote for ...

My morals prevent me from taking a positive action (supporting with my vote) ANY candidate that supports abortion.

5 posted on 09/16/2007 9:20:30 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: pissant
I was impressed with his Foreign Affairs article. That's exactly what we need in a post-Bush foreign policy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 09/16/2007 9:20:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kid Shelleen
"He claims he will apoint conservative judges so that may be a comfort.."

ROFLOL at any sucker dumb enough to buy this over his track record which is certainly a better indication of what he would actually do, if given the chance. (God forbid!)

7 posted on 09/16/2007 9:24:55 AM PDT by penowa
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To: goldstategop
>>>>Everything else about Rudy Guiliani is liberal. But on foreign policy, he's a muscular Ronald Reagan.

That isn't funny. Its pathetic.

Rooty has no talent in the area of foreign policy, military matters or dealing with Islamobastards. During the Vietnam War Rooty requested and received a deferment for service. Why? So he could work as a law clerk for a liberal NYCity judge. Rooty is liberal scum. His nomination would set in motion the destruction of the GOP.

Thank God Fred Thompson heard the call of conservatives and decided to accept the challenge. He will beat Rooty and take down Hillary. Go Fred go!

8 posted on 09/16/2007 9:26:27 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
More on the neocons:

But there's more to neoconservatism than the war. The word refers to a movement that sprang from New York's upper West Side in the late '60s, led principally by ex-liberals who felt welfare policies had veered too far left.

Irving Kristol, a movement founder, once defined neoconservative as a "liberal mugged by reality."

On the foreign policy side, along with projecting a strong military posture abroad, neoconservatives are skeptical of international organizations, such as the United Nations, and ardently pro-Israel.

All of which describes Giuliani. As mayor, he reveled in challenging liberal dogma, particularly on taxes, crime and welfare, and rarely missed a chance to slap the UN.

And while virtually all the Republican candidates for President have staked out positions in favor of continuing the Iraq war, none have made security and the broader war on terror as dominant a theme as Giuliani.

In other words, the War On Islamofascism. Abortion is important to be sure - but the greatest abortion of all to fear is the abortion the Left would perform on our American civilization. They must kept away from the levers of power.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 09/16/2007 9:26:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Was this on the editorial page of the NY Daily News?
10 posted on 09/16/2007 9:27:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Kid Shelleen

Further proof neocons are really liberals. Instead of backing a good man like Duncan Hunter, they pick Giuliani????


11 posted on 09/16/2007 9:30:29 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: taxcontrol
“I will not vote for Rudy and ANY circumstances.”

In my opinion, if its is Rudy v Hildebeast, anyone who takes your position is going to elect the beast.
In 1972, I had the choice of voting for Nixon or McGovern. I held my nose and voted for Nixon, who was one of the most liberal GOP Presidents. I would do it again, just as I will vote for Rudy, or Fred, or John, or Mitt, if they are nominated.

12 posted on 09/16/2007 9:46:12 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: NapkinUser
John F. Kennedy was the last Senator to become president. Has there ever been a Representative elected president?
13 posted on 09/16/2007 9:47:36 AM PDT by BARLF (Who is Huma?)
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To: taxcontrol

I will not vote for Rudy and ANY circumstances. And yes, I have heard all about the ... not voting for Rudy is a vote for ...

My morals prevent me from taking a positive action (supporting with my vote) ANY candidate that supports abortion.


I agree with you.


14 posted on 09/16/2007 9:49:52 AM PDT by Grunthor (Lazy Like a Fox)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Neo-con is an anti-semitic code word which should be deleted from our vocabulary. To be honest both extremes on both sides use it and frankly, it is ugly./Just Asking - seoul62.........


15 posted on 09/16/2007 9:51:06 AM PDT by seoul62 (Just asking, Seoul62)
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To: Reagan Man

“Thank God Fred Thompson heard the call of conservatives and decided to accept the challenge. He will beat Rooty and take down Hillary. Go Fred go!”

Honestly I’d rather lose with Fred (not that I think he will) than win with Trudy.


16 posted on 09/16/2007 9:51:21 AM PDT by Grunthor (Lazy Like a Fox)
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To: Kid Shelleen
He claims he will appoint conservative judges so that may be a comfort..

Rudy's far more likely to nominate moderates than conservatives. Hillary, otoh, would undoubtedly nominate the most flaming libs imaginable. I'm no Rudy fan, but the Rudy = Hillary contentions are utterly ridiculous.

17 posted on 09/16/2007 9:52:36 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: BARLF
Has there ever been a Representative elected president?

I believe so. It's been a long time though.

Has a person who's never held any elected office other than mayor ever become president?

18 posted on 09/16/2007 9:52:55 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Uh oh, the Commie leftwing media in NY are bringing out their “jew” card!


19 posted on 09/16/2007 9:54:59 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

Then if Rudy is going to be the GOP nomination, then the GOP NEEDS TO LOSE AS THE PARTY WOULD ALREADY BE LOST.


20 posted on 09/16/2007 9:55:18 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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