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To: TWohlford

You hit the nail on the head.... most of this discoveries are energy, not an energy source (container).

I have this discussion with the green crowd at work. They want electric cars and buses to end the strangle hold oil has on us. But when I ask them how will they produce all the electricity in the quantity needed they fall silent. There are a lot of interesting things on a small scale but when applied to large scale usage they fall apart.


17 posted on 09/09/2007 8:32:34 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy

“They want electric cars and buses to end the strangle hold oil has on us. But when I ask them how will they produce all the electricity in the quantity needed they fall silent. There are a lot of interesting things on a small scale but when applied to large scale usage they fall apart.”

The last I heard, in order to recharge car batteries in a reasonable amount of time (1 hour?) you’d have to empty an entire power grid to recharge a few cars.

Worse yet, no one talks about the eco problems when you have massive heavy metal mines in places like China, with the corresponding smelting factories in places that don’t care about the environment.

They don’t want to talk about the whole issue of disposal of such batteries.

They don’t want to talk about the problems associated with making cars that will probably only last as long as the batteries, instead of cars that run 300k miles (diesel).

And, they don’t want to talk about the safety issues of a person being involved in an accident when there are 500 pounds of batteries involved.


20 posted on 09/09/2007 8:38:37 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Dutch Boy

“I have this discussion with the green crowd at work. They want electric cars and buses to end the strangle hold oil has on us. But when I ask them how will they produce all the electricity in the quantity needed they fall silent. There are a lot of interesting things on a small scale but when applied to large scale usage they fall apart.”

I believe the answer is nukes, nukes and more nukes!


29 posted on 09/09/2007 9:04:15 AM PDT by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: Dutch Boy; grundle; Boundless; facedown; TWohlford; RightWhale; go-dubya-04
There is more going on with this than mere combustion of hydrogen. It only works with salt water, not plain water. The flame is strange, like an electrical arc. I think what is going on is similar to what is going on with the old “candle in the microwave” trick. I think the RF generator is acting on the flame something similar to the way a microwave acts on the flame of a candle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk4SZfnRufo

Be warned, there is profanity in this vid.

97 posted on 09/09/2007 6:28:16 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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