[imagery-member]

I’m pretty new here. How do we weed through the adolescent commentary and get to a real discussion of ideology?

Seems to me that Paul’s platform directly addresses why the Republicans lost in 2006. Trying to silence him or dismiss him only seems to further undermine GOP credibility. Seems that’s in short supply these days, unfortunately. I’m a Conservative, but I can see that much is true. Bush-fatigue, Iraq-fatigue. Sheesh. And, now...just plain juvenile tactics. I mean, Sean Hannity has gone off the deep end on his Paul bashing. Even my parents-in-law were disgusted by his and Fox’s transparent attempts to slander and sabotage Paul.

Who do these people think they’re kidding?

[George W. Bush]

I’m pretty new here. How do we weed through the adolescent commentary and get to a real discussion of ideology?

Pretty difficult. The Paul-haters try to find and trash every last RP thread they can. You'll see them spam the keywords, etc.

Anyway, sometimes a bit of discussion does somehow actually slip through. If you're interested, you can FReepmail me or OrthodoxPresbyterian to be added to the Ron Paul Pinglist. OPie's too busy these days with his MeetUp and doesn't get here often so you're better off asking me and I'll notify him you joined.

Funny, that Big Tent is really shrinking. All the small-government conservatives and liberty lovers are being shown the door. For the sake of voting for Republicans who gush admiration for Teddy Kennedy and beg him to write No Child Left Behind, the Shamnesty bills, etc. They like to accuse RP supporters of drinking the Koolaid. But I think that's pretty debatable. I can hardly recognize the Republican party of Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich. I still stand for that old conservative agenda, I just wonder what happened to everybody else.

[mylife]

Seems to me that Paul’s platform directly addresses why the Republicans lost in 2006.

No Sir.

Dr Pauls platform is trying to capitalize on a war weary nation.

Mr Paul has some well rooted ideas on limited government, but he is wrong on the idea that we can cloister ourselves away from the world and all of its troubles.

[Thoreau]

Well, to me it appears like the kind of behavior you see in adolescents who refuse to admit they are wrong.

Paul’s words cut to the quick, and to borrow Goldwater’s line..deep down they know he’s right. We’ve screwed up and all we are doing now is saving face. At some point (and it may take a lost election or 2 to realize it) conservatives are going to have to admit they’ve fled their conservative roots to their own doom. They’ve sacrificed liberty for security and achieved neither.

Right now, it appears as if “they hate us for our freedom”...not the terrorists, but rather the neo-cons.

[traviskicks]

“How do we weed through the adolescent commentary and get to a real discussion of ideology?”

unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be much of this sort of thing on Ron Paul threads anymore...