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Microsoft reveals US Navy secrets
vnunet ^ | 09/04/2007 | Iain Thompson

Posted on 09/04/2007 5:04:10 PM PDT by Doohickey

A sharp-eyed user of Microsoft's Virtual Earth has found images of classified US Navy technology.

The image shows an Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine being pulled out of the water at the Trident Submarine Base in Bangor, Maine and displays its propeller in full view.

Submarine propellers are highly classified and are usually hidden when submarines go into dry dock.

Dan Twohig, a deck officer on the Washington state ferry service, found the image when he was searching for a new house. He also writes a blog about shipping called Monster Maritime, on which he broke the news of the discovery.

"The prop photos were not taken from a satellite but by an airplane on a mapping run of the area," he wrote.

"I am certain that I am not the first person to see this photo, but I was just the first person to point it out and say: 'Whoa, I don't think that the military is going to be happy with this.'

"Satellites are one thing, but frankly, I am surprised that the air space over sensitive bases like Bangor is not better controlled."

Details of submarine propellers are highly secret, since they are the primary noise producing part of the submarine during cruising. Modern designs are built to reduce cavitation, the process by which bubbles form as the blades turn underwater.

A similar case occurred early this year when Google Earth picked up the first public pictures of a Chinese ballistic missile submarine.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: bangor; looselips; maritime; miltech; msn; satellite; securitybreach; steelyeyedkillers; submarine; submarines; trident
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1 posted on 09/04/2007 5:04:11 PM PDT by Doohickey
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; ..
Ping to the Steely-Eyed Killers of the Deep...
2 posted on 09/04/2007 5:05:38 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: Doohickey

On the bright side China probably had detailed blue-prints back in the 90s.


3 posted on 09/04/2007 5:06:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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Goody—liberals selling us out again.


4 posted on 09/04/2007 5:07:16 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks in part to Toshiba, which is why my husband states we will NEVER own anything with a Toshiba nameplate.


5 posted on 09/04/2007 5:07:25 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Doohickey

First the Japanese....now Microsoft....

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Of course, That plane should have NEVER been allowed in the airspace while the screw was exposed.


6 posted on 09/04/2007 5:08:21 PM PDT by rottndog (If the Left obeyed the 10th Commandment, maybe they would learn to obey the 10th Amendment.)
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To: Severa

Toshiba now owns ... the nuclear reactor division of what was formerly Westinghouse.


7 posted on 09/04/2007 5:08:46 PM PDT by ikka
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To: DoughtyOne

Sheeeit, they were probably MADE in China.


8 posted on 09/04/2007 5:09:30 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Severa

Good for him.


9 posted on 09/04/2007 5:10:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: Spruce

And I thought my post was good. Ged ouda here... LOL


10 posted on 09/04/2007 5:11:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: Doohickey

The answer here is for the military to better secure their secrets and their airspace, not to condemn Microsoft for providing good coverage in their maps and images.


11 posted on 09/04/2007 5:13:13 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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...being pulled out of the water at the Trident Submarine Base in Bangor, Maine...

LOL... I can picture a bunch of terorists running around Maine looking for our subs.

12 posted on 09/04/2007 5:14:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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I remember we once let the Soviets think they were stealing some secret pipeline software. Turns out it was all a setup and the software was riddled with problems.

Maybe the Navy exposed a bogus screw for the ChiComs and Russians to waste some resources on.

13 posted on 09/04/2007 5:17:05 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: OCCASparky
Goody—liberals selling us out again.

And some silly people think the Navy should cover those props so they can't be photographed.

14 posted on 09/04/2007 5:17:57 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I agree. I don’t expect Microsoft, Google, MapQuest or anyone else to staff defense specialists to vet every aerial photo for classified information.


15 posted on 09/04/2007 5:20:36 PM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: Cementjungle

Dammit - no wonder I never got a response - I kept sending all my resumes to the Navy Shipyard in Maine!


16 posted on 09/04/2007 5:21:08 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
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To: Doohickey
The image shows an Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine being pulled out of the water at the Trident Submarine Base in Bangor, Maine and displays its propeller in full view.

First, that would have to be Bangor, Washington. Secondly, I don't think a mapping aircraft, or any other type of civilian aircraft was allowed to fly over an SSBN base.

Third, the Russians and Chinese have satellites that have revisit times much shorter than the time it takes to dry-dock a submarine.

17 posted on 09/04/2007 5:21:23 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Severa
Thanks in part to Toshiba, which is why my husband states we will NEVER own anything with a Toshiba nameplate.

Amen.

Same goes for me.

18 posted on 09/04/2007 5:23:29 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Dammit - no wonder I never got a response - I kept sending all my resumes to the Navy Shipyard in Maine!

Send one to VnuNet, they need some proofreaders.

19 posted on 09/04/2007 5:25:20 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: BallyBill
I remember we once let the Soviets think they were stealing some secret pipeline software. Turns out it was all a setup and the software was riddled with problems.

It's was better than that. It was a Casey operation. The sw controllers created a huge explosion, knocking out a key hard-currency source.

20 posted on 09/04/2007 5:25:31 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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