In agreement Seymour Kleiman, 86, on the balcony of his second-floor condominium at Berkshire E in Century Village, serves on the board and agrees with the decision on the elevator. (Sun-Sentinel/Mike Stocker / August 28, 2007)
In agreement Seymour Kleiman, 86, on the balcony of his second-floor condominium at Berkshire E in Century Village, serves on the board and agrees with the decision on the elevator. (Sun-Sentinel/Mike Stocker / August 28, 2007)
Wait till the Muslims want to install a foot bath.
this is news?????
Private people + private property + majority ownership vote = not news.
Can a Jewish Freeper explain this to me?
The energy to run the elevator is being expended whether one pushes the button or not.
Seems to me that the only way to strictly respect the Sabbath is to take the stairs.
No disrespect, just curious as to how far this goes: If you can’t push an elevator button, can you push the toilet flush lever? I am trying to imagine going through a day not doing any work, where pushing a button constitutes work.
This would’ve made a great Seinfeld episode.
Americans have an easier time when forced to spend money to accommodate a minority. It’s when the money is spent to accommodate a majority position that people get nervous. If they were spending to install special foot washing basins for a few Muslims everyone would think it was great.
My wife and I actually liked it because we would go shopping on Saturdays so we would never have to press the buttons to operate the elevator while we had our arms full of groceries.
One thing I don't understand: Orthodox Jews will ride an elevator up and down on Shabbos, but they will not ride a city bus to and from shul on Shabbos.
Is it because the elevator is indoors?
I know you are allowed to carry objects back and forth in your home on Shabbos, but if you are outside you cannot carry objects.
Is there a similar rule for conveyances?
Because otherwise, there is no difference I can see between riding an elevator or a city bus.
That was silly. All they had to do was replace each button with a electric eye switch...point your shooting finger (or nose) at the proper eye and you’re on your way.
“The board held at least three meetings with unit owners before casting the unanimous vote to take the money — which comes out to about $200 per unit — from the treasury.
“But the board ‘felt our vote wasn’t good enough so we sent letters to every owner,’ said board member Seymour Kleiman, 86. ‘Of the 56 owners, 50 gave us approval outright, two said absolutely not and the others were wishy-washy, they didn’t care.’”
The Orthodox community over by Emory University has set up an outdoor demarcation line around their neighborhood (wish I could remember the proper term for it) to allow people to travel within the neighborhood on the Sabbath. Basically they strung cables under the telephone wires. They paid for it, it doesn't interfere with the telephones or traffic, it's their money.
I suppose some may file it under "Quaint Religious Customs", but so what? I've got plenty of quaint religious customs too, but so long as it's my chalk and my front door that has 20 C+M+B 07 chalked over it, whose business is it but mine?
This is the sort of thing that made Jesus roll his eyes.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Nice to see things haven’t changed at Cemetary Village, although I don’t think Red Buttons plays golf there anymore.
Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 43 Woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye love the uppermost seats in the synagogues, and greetings in the markets. 44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
“They persuaded their board to spend $11,000 to convert the elevator so it automatically stops on each of the four floors during the Sabbath.”
This is so they don’t have to push a marked-floor button in the car?
Who pushes the wall button to call the elevator?
Or does it just go up and down all day, stopping at each floor, opening the doors and waiting a short time before closing the doors and continuing its never-ending journey?
Would be waaayyy cheaper to hire a shabbeth goy.
Wait for some anti-Semite liberal to equate this with Islamic terrorism.
Jerry Seinfeld’s dad would have finessed this.
I don't understand what the problem is. They are the owners, let them install a "Shabbos elevator."