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To: ElectricStrawberry
You demonstrate what the American conundrum is regarding islam. This is a conundrum I have long discussed and pondered in my heart. Americans have grown too accustomed to tolerating anything called a religion that when faced with a system that masquerades as a religion, we don't know what to do.

Is it a political system?

Is it a religion?

Is it both of these?

The answer to those questions determines if islam is an actual threat to the very Constitution you swore to protect and defend.

The Bill of Rights is there to protect you from the government, not from another religion .

You are correct in this statement in as far as religion is concerned. Reconsider your answers to my first 3 questions and does/is islam a religion?

116 posted on 08/30/2007 2:23:29 PM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH; ElectricStrawberry
Islam is a religion and a political system, it is monarchical, similar to what the Papacy would have been with out a secular government.

Remember the Ottoman Empire was a Religious State, the Emperor was Caliph and a Secular ruler.

119 posted on 08/30/2007 2:49:11 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: EBH; ElectricStrawberry
Islam is a religion and a political system, it is monarchical, similar to what the Papacy would have been with out a secular government.

Remember the Ottoman Empire was a Religious State, the Emperor was Caliph and a Secular ruler.

120 posted on 08/30/2007 2:49:43 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: EBH

Islam is fiirst and foremost....a religion and THAT is why it must be protected in the U.S.

Just so happens that a big part of Islam addresses how followers are supposed to live their lives in accordance with the religion. Do this. Don’t do that. Give of yourself. Don’t live materially.

Sounds familiar.... These are the good things in Islam....but just as with some religious political movements in the U.S. that try to regulate my behaviors that they deem as “bad” by legislating them, it does not belong in the U.S. government or ANY free government. I don’t care if we have muslims IN our government, but I do care if they try to legislate my behaviors.

Before anyone goes there. I also know of the violent passages in the Qu’ran. I also know of violent passages in other religious books too. Difference is, certain other religions have reformed....something Islam needs to do to bring it past the 17th century.


127 posted on 08/31/2007 5:15:35 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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