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A Test Case for Abolishing Family
Townhall.com ^ | 8/22/2007 | Terence Jeffrey

Posted on 08/22/2007 4:49:57 PM PDT by Utah Girl

As odd is it might seem, the next to last day of 2003 may someday be seen as a fateful moment for the traditional family. That is the when the United States Drug Enforcement Agency busted a pair of methamphetamine dealers in Philadelphia.

In a remarkable example of the corrosive force liberalism exerts on our society, the arrest of these drug dealers led to an opinion issued July 31 by U.S. District Judge Marvin Katz that -- if sustained by the Supreme Court -- could erase the special status marriage and the traditional family enjoy in American law.

(snip) The rules for enforcing Standard Condition No. 9, it turns out, include a blanket exception that allows a convicted felon on probation to associate with another convicted felon if they are spouses or blood relatives. Mangini and Roberts claimed this unfairly discriminated against them, violating their rights to "due process" and equal protection of the law under the Fifth Amendment.

(snip) "They considered, and still consider, themselves to be spouses," Judge Katz explained in his July 31 opinion. "Defendants were in every way a family."

The judge pointed out that the two men took in Roberts' niece as a foster child; and at one point in his opinion, he called them the niece's "two fathers."

Initially ruling on the case in January, Katz opined that the men's constitutional claim "may have merit," but that he could not rule on it because he lacked jurisdiction. Then in early July, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit ruled that Katz did have jurisdiction and sent the case back to him.

Katz now swung for the fences. Citing Lawrence v. Texas, the 2003 Supreme Court decision which absurdly held that the Constitution prohibits states from banning same-sex sodomy, he declared:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: family; lawrencevtexas; meth; ruling; terencejeffrey
"The Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the right to intimate association."
1 posted on 08/22/2007 4:49:59 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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Because of this, he argued, probation rules must treat two unmarried men who claim an “intimate association” just as if they were a married couple or a brother and a sister. “The Probation Office has violated defendants’ Fifth Amendment right to equal protection by refusing to grant defendants permission to associate with each other, while maintaining a policy of granting such permission to similarly situated individuals in other kinds of family relationships (i.e., siblings, parent and child, and spouses),” he said.

Many Americans have been worried that a federal judge will declare same-sex marriage a right. In fact, Judge Katz’s decision goes beyond that. It suggests that government must treat all claimed “intimate associations” equally.

If that becomes the law of the land, three drug dealers living together in the same apartment, or even a commune full of 1960s hippies, will become the legal equivalent of mom and dad.


2 posted on 08/22/2007 4:51:18 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl

Make it stop...I don’t want to have to move out of the country. Imagine, my values are being chased out of the USA while illegal immigrants are welcomed with open arms.


3 posted on 08/22/2007 4:53:54 PM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: MIT-Elephant
Make it stop...I don’t want to have to move out of the country.

And where are you going to move to?

Folks better get used to the idea of a fight for this Republic. There are people that are activly taking it away from us as we speak.

And if you don't feel up to the fight, plan support for those that do.

4 posted on 08/22/2007 5:03:06 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI
And where are you going to move to?

Australia comes to mind...

But I like it here, and the USA is worth fighting for
5 posted on 08/22/2007 5:16:21 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: MIT-Elephant
Make it stop...I don’t want to have to move out of the country. Imagine, my values are being chased out of the USA while illegal immigrants are welcomed with open arms.

Where will you go if the US ceases to exist?

Don't run, don't complain, and don't lament the loss of your country... FIGHT. Fight as if your very future depends upon it... because it does.

Volunteer. Vote. Attend rallies. Host a neighborhood meeting. Start a website. Get in the game. Remember what it means to be an American, and fight for it, because there are plenty of those who are fighting to bring America to its knees.
6 posted on 08/22/2007 5:23:20 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Utah Girl

How long until the stupidity in this country reaches critical mass?


7 posted on 08/22/2007 5:25:16 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Utah Girl

Apples and oranges. High probability it will be overturned on appeal. A “catch-22” as it were.

“...The rules for enforcing Standard Condition No. 9, it turns out, include a blanket exception that allows a convicted felon on probation to associate with another convicted felon if they are spouses or blood relatives...”

Not “intimate”, but married. Ergo, since these two are not married, they cannot associate as felons, any more than a guy and his girlfriend convicted of felonies, can associate.

And even though Massachusetts recognizes homosexual marriage, it is not *federally* recognized. And the feds do not recognize “civil unions” or cohabitation “common law marriage”, as being equivalent to marriage as far as this law goes.


8 posted on 08/22/2007 5:29:01 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: HangnJudge
USA is worth fighting for

Dang right. It is the only USA we have.

Folks say if your gonna be a bear, be a grizzly.

Well, if your gonna fight for a country, may as well be the USA.

:-)


9 posted on 08/22/2007 5:56:00 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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