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Should city bail homebuyers out? [Los Angeles, Ca.]
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | August 22, 2007 | KERRY CAVANAUGH and GREGORY J. WILCOX,

Posted on 08/22/2007 3:05:42 PM PDT by DCPatriot

Housing experts painted a grim picture of Los Angeles' real-estate market Tuesday as City Councilman Richard Alarcon called for city, state and federal funds to help bail out city homeowners who can't pay their mortgages.

Warning that the region is embroiled in a foreclosure upheaval, Alarcon said he's also considering asking lawmakers to declare a state of emergency to direct state and federal money to counseling and loans for people about to lose their homes.

"We're in a crisis. We don't need bureaucrats who are going to sit on their thumbs and not get things done. Who do we go to in federal government to ask for emergency assistance to help solve this crisis?" Alarcon asked city housing officials Tuesday during an emergency hearing on foreclosures.

"It seems to me we'd better kick the federal government in the butt to get into action to help us solve the problem, and I don't think we're doing any kicking now."

The hearing came as economists were chewing on new default numbers that show the trend is worsening. Foreclosures hit a record level in California last month and officials said 1,074 homes were foreclosed on in Los Angeles County - up more than 600 percent from last year.

Notices of default, the first step in the process and usually taken when payments are at least three months late, increased 145.3 percent, to 4,009, in L.A. County.

The Inland Empire continues to be one of the most affected areas in the state. Last month, the San Bernardino/Riverside counties region had 1,697 foreclosures, an annual increase of 832.4 percent. Default notices spiked 198.2 percent, to 4,720.

For all of California, foreclosures soared 517 percent, or 7,240 properties.

The numbers have fueled growing concern, advocates in Sacramento on Tuesday push for a moratorium on foreclosures.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bailout; foreclosure; housing; losangeles; moratorium; mortgage
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They're already suggesting the Federal Government step in to 'save the day'.

While I predict government intervention, would prefer that the free market be allowed to work here.

1 posted on 08/22/2007 3:06:02 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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Yeah, brilliant idea. Remove all consequence for irresponsible financial behavior, so they can go take out more option ARMS on more property and make the mess even worse.

The market works unless idiot politicians get in it's way.

2 posted on 08/22/2007 3:10:14 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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Oh, what the hell. Why not? Let’s do their car payments for them, too! And credit cards, too, of course.


3 posted on 08/22/2007 3:11:14 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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They're already suggesting the Federal Government step in to 'save the day'.

It was the federal government, or more precisely, George W. Bush, who created this mess in the first place.

In 2001, Bush signed the Partnership for Prosperity agreement (with Mexico).

This led to the formation of the New Alliance Task Force, whose job it was to relax banking and lending rules to allow Mexican illegal aliens to use a Matricula Consular card as valid ID and a US tax return with an ITIN as proof of income to obtain US bank accounts as well as home and auto loans.

These illegal aliens were the primary recipients of the sub-prime loans, which are also probably the majority of those defaulting on their loans in L.A.

4 posted on 08/22/2007 3:11:59 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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If the Feds are giving away free money, everyone should get the same amount, those who have mortgage payments can make them, the rest of us can throw a huge party.
5 posted on 08/22/2007 3:12:15 PM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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No, home buyers should not be bailed out. They chose their paths.


6 posted on 08/22/2007 3:13:35 PM PDT by madison10
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If the Feds are giving away free money, everyone should get the same amount, those who have mortgage payments can make them, the rest of us can throw a huge party.

Sorry, but this free money train is only for Mexican illegal aliens. (See: New Alliance Task Force)

7 posted on 08/22/2007 3:17:02 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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They haven't invested anything.

What is it that they should be bailed out from?

8 posted on 08/22/2007 3:20:23 PM PDT by evad
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Los Angeles County must have at least a couple of million homes. They are being forclosed on at a rate of 12,000 per year. This constitutes a crisis?

Most of the owners of the homes being forclosed on could not and still cannot afford to pay the real cost of the money they borrowed to buy the homes at ridiculously inflated prices. Most of them put little or no money down and bought under very risky circumstances on the assumption that ever increasing prices would alleviate that risk. Ending this folly constitutes a crisis?

Of necessity, when you bail out a borrower, you bail out a lender. Insulating a capitalist from the adverse consequences of his investment decisions is good public policy?

9 posted on 08/22/2007 3:20:38 PM PDT by p. henry
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10 posted on 08/22/2007 3:20:41 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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No, home buyers should not be bailed out. They chose their paths.

Yup. It started on the other side of the Mexican border.

Next, was the Mexican Consulate where they obtained a Matricula Consular card and advice from US bankers on how to take advantage of the programs created by the FDIC and Mexican Consulate General.

After that, they got jobs with employers who took advantage of Bush's lack of immigration enforcement.

Then, finally was a stop by any one of hundreds of banks who took advantage of the changes in banking rules Bush put into place so they could obtain US bank accounts as well as home and auto loans.

It's a good thing some of us stood up for what's right because otherwise, they'd be earning US Social Security retirement benefits for themselves and their wives and children back home in Mexico thanks to Bush's Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico.

11 posted on 08/22/2007 3:22:37 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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Headline is wrong. Should say, “Should citizens bail homebuyers out?”
12 posted on 08/22/2007 3:23:02 PM PDT by DejaJude
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What a shock!! One of the more liberal members of the L.A. city council wants to generate another huge demoratic grab bag..FREE Mortgages..come one come all. This goes along well with free murder on demand(abortion), free health care, free “medical” marijuana, and other communistic ideas.
It makes me sick. Oh and by the way, I live and own a business in Los Angeles.AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH.


13 posted on 08/22/2007 3:24:05 PM PDT by U.S. Raptor (Conservatism vs. Socialism: Where we were and where we're going.)
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Meanwhile, we responsible buyers, who got a fixed rate with 25% down, get a higher tax bill. Brilliant!


14 posted on 08/22/2007 3:24:16 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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Headline is wrong. Should say, “Should citizens bail homebuyers out?”

Even your headline is wrong.

Should say, "Should US taxpayers bail out Mexican illegal alien homeowners?"

15 posted on 08/22/2007 3:25:16 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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To: evad

Not everyone of them were 100% loan to value (LTV) mortgages.


16 posted on 08/22/2007 3:32:52 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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Posted by DCPatriot to Hydroshock; RockinRight

On General/Chat 08/09/2007 7:12:13 AM PDT · 48 of 83

Of the hundreds of my listings that sold over the recent real estate boom, many were in the $350 to $400K price range

. As all written offers are presented to the listing agent on behalf of the sellers, I was in a position to see what loan programs were the most popular.

The vast majority of the loans were 100% LTV.

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IOW....DCProfiteer made his living for the past few years from these same loans. Why are we not surprised?

17 posted on 08/22/2007 3:41:52 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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From the article:

"We're seeing people who borrowed $600,000 and can only afford $300,000," said Lori Gay, president and CEO of Los Angeles Neighborhood Housing Services.

And we're supposed to bail these people out? Out-freakin-rageous!

18 posted on 08/22/2007 3:43:07 PM PDT by bshomoic
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Excellent plan. People sign up for mortgages with impossible terms because they have a history of not paying their bills, then get foreclosed because of the crap mortgage that was all they could get or because they, well, didn’t pay their bills, and the city should bail them out?????


19 posted on 08/22/2007 3:45:30 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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LOL...

Does anybody know if there is some kind of prize for “most tortured logic in order to make a thread about immigration when it was not”?

Good heavens man. This definitely wins the prize.

Maybe they did it so they can foreclose and pave over all these houses to make room for their new superhighway.

[chuckle]


20 posted on 08/22/2007 3:54:38 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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