[fr_freak]

What the "anything goes" libertarian types (as opposed to the limited government, classic liberal type of libertarian) do not realize is that, in a country where there is moral breakdown among individuals and society at large, an increase in government size, power, and oppression is inevitable. Where morality once restrained people, and thus made a strong government unnecessary, now a whole slew of laws are put into place to keep people from killing and robbing each other in the streets and, of course, the accompanying paramilitary agencies put in place to enforce those laws.

Any libertarian who realy wanted to see limited government would pray for morality to return. Quite frankly, widespread, common morality is impossible without religion (and some religions are more moral than others). Given that even those who believe in Judeo-Christian morality often fall prey to the temptations of this world, certainly those without a higher reason to be moral will be more prone to succumb.

[bondserv]

Perfectly said!

[jmc813]

What the "anything goes" libertarian types (as opposed to the limited government, classic liberal type of libertarian) do not realize is that, in a country where there is moral breakdown among individuals and society at large, an increase in government size, power, and oppression is inevitable.

The converse is true as well.

[Trailerpark Badass]

What the "anything goes" libertarian types (as opposed to the limited government, classic liberal type of libertarian) do not realize is that, in a country where there is moral breakdown among individuals and society at large, an increase in government size, power, and oppression is inevitable.

But this government, whose increase in size, power, and oppression we are supposed to fear, is the same government moral authoritarians wish to use to prevent "moral breakdown."

I don't trust goverment to educate my children, and I don't trust it to manage my moral/spiritual life. I go to church for that.