To: MNJohnnie
Not really. In fact not even close. What many libertarians want is limited government. Many conservatives have proven that they don't want that. And there's the rub. As far a being "free from restraint of any kind" that's an obvious overgeneralization. Most libertarians want what Jefferson wanted when he said ...
"Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
Most conservatives on the other hand, think that majoritiarian tyranny is OK. It boils down to this - if what I do doesn't directly affect you, you have limited reason to control me.
15 posted on
08/21/2007 11:54:53 AM PDT by
RKV
(He who has the guns makes the rules)
To: RKV
I agree with Jefferson’s statement; I suppose that makes me a libertarian, although I’ve always been more of a social conservative in thinking. I just don’t feel like that social conservatism, civil liberties, and fiscal conservatism need to be mutually exclusive.
25 posted on
08/21/2007 12:03:03 PM PDT by
JamesP81
(Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
To: RKV
No, I don’t think majoritarian tyranny is ok.
I think the difference to me is that liberty is not the ultimate good, it is the means to the ultimate good, which is goodness it self. But goodness requires a moral choice, and in order to make a choice you need to be free.
I think there are some conservatives who forget that and want to force people to be good, and that is wrong. But what I think a lot of libertarian do is they start worshiping liberty as the ultimate good, and I get the feeling that they don’t really care how the liberty is used as long as people have it. Liberty can only be maintained with responsible use, I think a lot of so-call libertarians want all the benefit and none of the responsibility.
To: RKV
I’ll stick with what Pope John Paul II said, “Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.”
70 posted on
08/21/2007 12:39:37 PM PDT by
dfwgator
(The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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