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NBC stung by criticism of sex-predator cases
Steve Thompson Dallas Morning News ^

Posted on 08/14/2007 4:27:34 AM PDT by Dudoight

The show was an instant success. It lured would-be child-sex predators to a public shaming, delivered by a handsome host. Ratings, awards and even praise from members of Congress followed. But now Dateline NBC's "To Catch a Predator" series is taking heat. And so is the police chief of the Collin County town that hosted it eight months ago. The troubles stem from the show's visit to Murphy, where more than 20 people were arrested but escaped prosecution because of evidence problems. Also a former district attorney ensnared in the sting shot himself.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: nbcnews; pedophiles; perverts; sexcrimes; sexualpredators
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To: untrained skeptic
Dateline was doing a great public service. They broke no laws, helped out law-enforcement - and saved who knows how many youngsters. As a parent, I am grateful what they did. They deserved getting high ratings. As you said, those two do not have to be mutually exclusive.
261 posted on 08/14/2007 12:12:00 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: wideawake; Nonstatist

Let me echo your sentiments.

I am falling on the floor amazed that Nonstatist is taking such a pro-pervert POV.

The trash is he spouting serves to prove that long time FReepers have immunity to the zot.


262 posted on 08/14/2007 12:12:13 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: AppyPappy
Cool, thanks. I'll check out the demos.

I'm more into twitch games that I can pick up, play with for a bit, then put back down again. (Comes from the hours required for the job, and having little kids...) I've been into MAME (Multi Arcade Mission Emulator) for awhile. It grabs the ROM files from the old arcade games (Asteroids, Space Invaders) and puts them into an on-screen playable emulator.

Nothing like playing the old games from the 80s. And, I can "feed a couple of quarters in", play for a few minutes, then walk away without getting sucked into playing for hours. It's a pleasant, brief distraction.

263 posted on 08/14/2007 12:13:33 PM PDT by wbill
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To: gridlock

I’m, for one, not going to argue with anything you have to say, you are, obviously, a big fan of the ACLU and they would never concede the obvious either.


264 posted on 08/14/2007 12:15:56 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Dante3

actually dateline DID break laws if they violated chain of custody rules.

I think the police affiliation was a re-election scheme and an effort to create arms length immunity from challeges to chain of custody.

IOW: Chain of custody starts after the police make an arrest not from before.

Remember a who bunch of the aleged predators were let off due to dateline botching the evidentiary rules.


265 posted on 08/14/2007 12:21:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: wbill

COD online can be as quick as you like. I sometimes drop in for about 10 minutes because I have to admin the server (kick out problem players). I can jump in, shoot a few people, watch for idiots and get back out. My son started playing it when he was 8 so even kids can pick it up.

The sniper servers are very slow-paced which can be a welcome relief. I wish I had it when my kids were really young. When my daughter was 2, she would sit on my lap and watch me play Harpoon, yelling “BANGO” everytime a missile hit a ship.


266 posted on 08/14/2007 12:22:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dudoight

So, purveyors of sleaze entrap potential pedophiles. How sweet. Now, who’s going to entrap the purveyors of sleaze, who, by the way, are more prevalent in this society than the potential pedophiles, no matter what the purveyors of sleaze tell you?


267 posted on 08/14/2007 12:23:53 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Nonstatist
Predators cant help themselves.

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That's a bizarre statement.

268 posted on 08/14/2007 12:30:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RetSignman
...you are, obviously, a big fan of the ACLU and they would never concede the obvious either.

I don't see why being suspicious of the ethics of Dateline NBC and committed to trial before punishment makes be a big fan of the ACLU.

These things are usually pretty obvious, at least in FReepville. You mention child molestation, though, and the torch 'n pitchfork crowd just goes nuts!

269 posted on 08/14/2007 12:31:19 PM PDT by gridlock (I have taken a sacred vow to always maintain a smaller carbon footprint than Al Gore)
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To: AppyPappy
even kids can pick it up ...That's a positive. I had the opportunity to play on a friend's XBox the other week. Haven't picked up a video game controller in a ---long---- time, and I was totally left in the dust. "It's easy WBill! Just press A-A-B-Up-back-left to fire! And A-B-A-back-left-right to select a different gun! Duuu-uh."

Things have changed since my old Atari 2600. Back in the day, I didn't need to use my Engineering degree to play a ##$%$#%! video game. I hear that the Nintendo Wii is pretty easy to use, though. I might look into it when the kids are old enough.

270 posted on 08/14/2007 12:32:44 PM PDT by wbill
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To: gridlock
You mention child molestation, though, and the torch 'n pitchfork crowd just goes nuts!

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News flash! Free Republic unfair to child molesters!

Oh, the horror! Where is Bill O'Reilly when you need him?

271 posted on 08/14/2007 12:34:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I don’t demand that we coddle child molesters. Upon conviction, I have no problem with severe punishment. It is punishment before conviction that I have a problem with.

Or are you one of those folks who think TV networks never make a mistake?

We shouldn’t have to throw out the Constitution in order to enforce the law. What would be the problem with protecting the identity of these perverts until conviction?


272 posted on 08/14/2007 12:39:15 PM PDT by gridlock (I have taken a sacred vow to always maintain a smaller carbon footprint than Al Gore)
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To: wbill

My son has a wii. I am unimpressed. I tried to steer him towards a PS2. Cheaper and better games for now. The wii is still a year off for games.

The mouse-keyboard combination is the best for shooters. Keyboard hand for movement, mouse hand for shooting.


273 posted on 08/14/2007 12:39:43 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: gridlock
What would be the problem with protecting the identity of these perverts until conviction?

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Wouldn't that constitute special treatment?

274 posted on 08/14/2007 12:41:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Exactly. They aren’t minors. Face it, NBC only shows people who are clearly busted and the vast majority of them plead guilty. This really isn’t debatable.


275 posted on 08/14/2007 12:44:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I am falling on the floor amazed that Nonstatist is taking such a pro-pervert POV.

Is that what it is, smart guy? IMO, youre about as deep as a puddle and as wide as a crack if you cant see whats wrong with letting a bunch of left wing "journalists" lead the police by the nose through an ill thought through publicity lynching. If it cant stand up in a court of law, it shouldnt be done. How smart do you have to be to know that?? .. If stupidity and shallowness was against the law you'd be in trouble. Buts its not.

276 posted on 08/14/2007 12:44:06 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: gridlock

coming out against NBC on this is like coming out in favor of puppy-kicking...

agreed.

The problem is, if the police were to set something like this up, there’s a good chance a wise attorney (oxymoron??) could get it thrown out because of entrapment, or insufficient grounds for an arrest.

And that would be no less true if it’s a third party doing it as well...

I know 99% of these guys are scum, and it’s PROBABLY true that that figure is really 100%, but probability belongs on the math teachers blackboard, not in a court of law.


277 posted on 08/14/2007 12:45:34 PM PDT by djf (America welcomes immigrants! Sadly, America welcomes crimmigrants even more...)
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To: trisham
...I mean to say eventually they'll out themselves. They are compelled to bad behavior.. Am I still going too fast for you? Shall I get some crayons?
278 posted on 08/14/2007 12:47:21 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: AppyPappy
Exactly. They aren’t minors. Face it, NBC only shows people who are clearly busted and the vast majority of them plead guilty. This really isn’t debatable.

In this last go-round in Texas, the all walked, without prosecution. Zero for 20.

279 posted on 08/14/2007 12:51:14 PM PDT by gridlock (I have taken a sacred vow to always maintain a smaller carbon footprint than Al Gore)
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To: Nonstatist
If it cant stand up in a court of law, it shouldnt be done. How smart do you have to be to know that??

Apparently smarter than the magistrate who signed the search and arrest warrants.

280 posted on 08/14/2007 12:53:51 PM PDT by new cruelty
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