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Every part of me wants to scream this is pointy headed BS until I take a sober look at things. Listen to any Democrat and realize they control the congress and are odds on favorites to win the White House. (Don't flame me, I am going to everything in my power to fight the poltical fight against this)

Can this really happen to us on our watch?

1 posted on 08/13/2007 5:35:12 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey
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Mr Walker, who was appointed during the Clinton administration to the post

'Nuff said. Another Clintonista holdout that W. failed to purge.

And don't think, Mr. Grant, that we missed the reference to "imperial Rome = imperialist America =
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2 posted on 08/13/2007 5:40:11 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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Who was appointed during the Clinton administration

Nuff said

3 posted on 08/13/2007 5:41:03 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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Not like there is anything new in there. You hear the same warnings over and over. Hearing them combined with the declining morals is new though.
4 posted on 08/13/2007 5:42:58 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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Nothing more than standard socialist talking points.

...inter-generational equity ...

The most glaring tip off, i.e. income redistribution.

5 posted on 08/13/2007 5:44:38 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Simply go look at your school district’s budget, your county’s budget, your state’s budget and any other taxing entity’s budgets. You will see such great uber spending and fluff, it will turn your stomach. One major problem is each person who is elected and leaves office has usually gotten retirement AND also invested their time in office to support them comfortably with some new legal add on to an agency. Hence, the uber requirements to hold a plumber, electrical, real estate, CPA, etc. license. Many of these “certified classes” are run by ex-legislators or their close friends....
6 posted on 08/13/2007 5:46:11 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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“Learn from the fall of Rome..”

One of the many differences between us and Rome is that the latter did not have a death wish while we do. It is called globalization, multiculturalism, PC and the desire for diversity and not unity.


7 posted on 08/13/2007 5:46:32 PM PDT by 353FMG
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so why did he have to get FT to run his story? /rhetorical question.


9 posted on 08/13/2007 5:54:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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I’m watching to see if we lose a third space shuttle. I see it as a microcosm.

Any one example is meaningless, but many small measures can add up to something more meaningful than the dramatic parallels that Walker is making.


11 posted on 08/13/2007 5:55:45 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Can this really happen to us on our watch?

I'm not going to agree with the pointy head over our being over-extended with the military (although I really believe Bush not increasing the size of the military after 9/11 when he had a friendly Congress was a mistake that will haunt us for years to come), but I will agree that morally we are on a decline, and Congress and the Federal Government are spending way too much money on useless programs, and that we should care more about immigration than we do (I don't give a damn if Bush considers them "guest workers", his wanting to legalize them would be a drain on this country).

Rome should be studied very closely - Rome didn't fall in a few days, and many of the factors that contributed to its decline are impacting us now - out of control spending, corruption, immorality, immigration problems, etc. Sure, maybe many centuries separate us, but many of our problems are the same.
13 posted on 08/13/2007 6:00:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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Walker is right. Our entitlement programs with an unfunded liability of $60 trillion and a flood of immigrants, legal and illegal, combine to make a giant train wreck ahead. It may already to too late to avoid the consequences. Congress must act prior to 2017 to “fix” Medicare and SS. It is just a matter of what “fix” they employ, but they must do something.


14 posted on 08/13/2007 6:04:21 PM PDT by kabar
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What is it with people and Rome? The “Empire” was the salvation of Rome, if one is referring to the period 30 BC to 180 AD. Augustus and the later Emperors turned Rome from a great slum with a few public buildings into the
great metropolis of the Empire, outstripping even Alexandria.
17 posted on 08/13/2007 6:10:47 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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Another striking similarity is that Rome had “Caligula”, and we had “Clintigula”.
18 posted on 08/13/2007 6:11:18 PM PDT by One_American
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Rome became liberalized and lost her ability to wage war. So much so that a vagabond like Attila the Hun kicked Rome’s ass.


20 posted on 08/13/2007 6:11:47 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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Rome “fell” (I assume he is writing about the Western Roman Empire) after it could no long field and army that was Roman and not Barbarian in nature.

It was the culmination of several centuries of bad administration and private armies going all the way back to Sulla.

21 posted on 08/13/2007 6:13:53 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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Does anyone know where we can download this report?


22 posted on 08/13/2007 6:13:55 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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Can this really happen to us on our watch?

Yes.

We all fight in our own way. However, there is no guarantee we will prevail. Many of our citizens fight against us for no other reason than they like to destroy things.

On the plus side I happened to drive by an anti war protest Saturday afternoon and the seditionists were all shouting and shaking their "Honk if you want our troops out of Iraq NOW" signs. You could have heard crickets chirping. Dead silence at the light. This in Mass. Hope still exists!

23 posted on 08/13/2007 6:14:19 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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Learn from the fall of Rome? I agree: don’t lose wars against barbarians.


25 posted on 08/13/2007 6:15:34 PM PDT by sphinx
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America is recreating the Fall of Rome in fast-forward.
27 posted on 08/13/2007 6:16:10 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter 2008)
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I knew that one day it was bound to happen, and now it has: I agree with something said by a Clinton appointee.

To all those issuing a kneejerk bash just because he’s a Clinton appointee, I’ll remind you that we conservatives pride ourselves on intellectual honesty over partisan politics.

I don’t agree with everything he says. For example, he seems to see the majority of the problem on the fiscal front, while I think the moral rot is of far greater concern, especially when viewed in a long-range context. Morality and character are the glue that hold us together in troubled times. And in case you haven’t looked around, morality and character are in shorter supply by the day in our country.

We as a society now engage in bizarre, indefensible behavior that will be our un-doing.

MM (in TX)


31 posted on 08/13/2007 6:23:26 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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If these people are so smart why don’t they realize that dramatic tax increases don’t add up to more money to the government in the long run and the effects on the economy and the tax base?

If you told them we could balance the budget with a 90% tax rate for 2 years they would consider it, instead of contemplating that 90% of the people would stay home (nevermind the 10% that would revolt :0)


33 posted on 08/13/2007 6:28:34 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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