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Winds of change: J&K girls take up arms [Citizens being armed to fight Islamic militancy]
New Delhi Television ^ | Monday, August 13, 2007 | NDTV

Posted on 08/13/2007 6:06:39 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick

NAWSHERA, India: Fighting militancy in Jammu and Kashmir is no longer limited to just men. Women and girls are now picking up the gun to protect themselves and their homes.

They play hockey in Chake de India but in real life, young girls in remote border villages in Jammu and Kashmir are doing their bit for their country.

18-year-old Sona helps her mother with the household chores but soon she will also be protecting her neighbours from militants.

''I and my mother both have undergone this training. Now even if militants come when my father is not at home, we can protect ourselves and our house,'' said Sona Devi, VDC member, Sarya village.

27 women from this border village of Naushera have been trained to use AK-47s and other heavy-duty weapons. They will now be part of the village defence committees.

''For self defence and for the defence of the country, women should also come forward. Women should come out of their homes.

''I want to tell them that they should also learn how to use guns,'' said Sunita, VDC member, Sarya village.

The Indian Army has been training these women. Senior officers believe they are as capable of fighting militants as the men.

''In case of a threat, they can fight it. They will also help us, so that we can also take action.

''There are reports that women terrorists are being trained. These women can help us a lot in checking that,'' said Major Gen Rajinder Singh, GOC, DAH mountain division, Naushera.

So far about ninety women have been trained after they volunteered to be on the village defence committees.

A sign of the changing times even when it comes to fighting militancy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armedcitizens; banglist; india; kashmir
http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050923-083928-8729r

 

 

Kashmiri women take up arms for self-protection

Prakriiti Gupta


 

MARAH, Jammu and Kashmir --  Women in Jammu and Kashmir have now picked up guns against Islamic militants to protect their homes.

At least 30 Muslim women in the disputed region to the north of India and Pakistan have constituted a separate all-women Village Defense Committee (VDC) and are operating with the Indian army in the forested mountains of Surankote in the Poonch district bordering the Pakistani side of Kashmir to fight militants.

"Now militants do not dare enter our village," said 18-year-old Nishat Bee, the youngest member of the group. Her companion, however, corrects her by saying, "In fact militants have not been this way since we picked up guns against them."

On a visit to the twin villages of Marah and Kulali, one finds tall, slender Muslim women sporting rifles on their shoulders while grazing cattle alone in deep forests or standing on top of the roofs of their homes to keep a watch on militants.

"I am proud to fight a Jihad [holy war] against marauders who have cheated us of our dignity and honor," says Shamima Akhter, the 30-year-old commander of this particular women's group.

"Militants who would force us to provide them shelter, food and at times to entertain them physically were harassing us physically and mentally. If we opposed them they would commit rapes or kill our family members. We wanted to confront them and the only way to do it was to acquaint ourselves with the basic functioning of guns and grenades," she added.

The majority of the men of this border belt work in Gulf countries leaving their women, children and elderly back in remote mountainous villages, the access to majority of which is through hours of rough walks that make the women soft targets.

It is common practice for the militants to seek shelter, food or seek sexual favors from these women, and in case of refusal, it is not unusual to rape or even kill them, using locals to work as porters on gunpoint in villages.

The Kashmir conflict traces its roots to 1947, when India and Pakistan simultaneously gained their independence from Britain. Pakistan was formed from the majority Muslim part of British territory, and India from the majority Hindu part.

The state of Jammu-Kashmir, with a majority Muslim population but a Hindu ruler, chose to be a part of India in a process that many believed to be illegal. Since then, India and Pakistan have fought three major wars over Kashmir, and close to 1 million have died in the violence. In 1989 the Kashmiri independence movement turned militant and began to promote the independence of Kashmir from India through violent means.

The VDCs were set up in Jammu and Kashmir in the mid-nineties following a number of massacres of the innocent inhabitants of the troubled region's far-flung villages. As there were no police or army pickets near these inaccessible villages, the Indian security forces provided military training to locals, and equipped them with weapons and wireless sets to counter militant attacks. At least 450 such VDCs are now functional in Jammu and Kashmir.

The foundation of this first women's VDC goes back to March 2003, when local Muslim priest Mir Hussain was killed by a group of mainly foreign Lashkar E-Tayyaba militants when he tried to stop the rape of his wife.

The priest's brother, Fazal Hussain, returned from the Gulf where he had been working, and with the help of the Indian army constituted the first ever-Muslim village committee in the border district of Poonch.

This group helped the Indian army destroy the biggest militant hideout in the famous Hill Kaka bowl in the mountains of Surankote in July 2003. At least 150 foreign militants were killed in the operation.

To avenge those killings, a Lashkar group in April 2004 attacked Kulali village and killed 14 women and children while the men were out on an operation.

Later, in June 2004, the militants executed another attack, which was repulsed by a woman, Khatoon Begum, who had learned to use a 303 Rifle from her son. Although she died in the attack her act helped save at least a dozen members of her family from Islamic guerrillas.

"Khatoon Begum's daring act lead to the foundation of all Muslim women VDC. We were supported by our husbands and fathers and thus trained ourselves in the operation of 303 rifles, SLRs, grenade throwing and other military aspects of how to react and repulse a militant attack", stated another women fighter, Shahnaz.

Tahira Begum, wife of VDC member Tahir Hussain Choudhary and mother of three says, "we want to live with honor and dignity and [for that] we have waged a war against these gun trotters [who are] a blot on the name of Islam.

"It is an amazing feeling to hold a gun in one's hand for a noble cause," Begum added. "On several occasions in the past eight months I have come across jihadis in the forests who are scared and who go into hiding. I am proud to be fighting a jihad against these marauders who cheated us of our dignity and honor."

Trained in the firing, basic handling and cleaning of weapons, as well as in battle craft and field craft drills, nearly every month these women go to nearby army camps to polish up on their shooting skills and to update their knowledge of weapons used commonly by terrorists.

"They have an extraordinary learning zest," said Indian army Public Relations Officer R.K Chhibber.

"We check on their fire ranges and other technical aspects almost every month. They also assist us in vital operations."

 


1 posted on 08/13/2007 6:06:42 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick
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To: CarrotAndStick

Excellent!


2 posted on 08/13/2007 6:16:19 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

We can dream of the day when New York and D.C. woman have the same freedoms as India.


3 posted on 08/13/2007 6:30:54 AM PDT by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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To: Hazcat

It would seem that women raped and abused,and finally empowering themselves would fit the classic 60’s left position.But this will never make the View or other show’s bilious crap as they pontificate on the social issue of the day.Because...they are fighting against the axis of evil in this case.You know..Iran,Jihadist,terorrist and the left in this country.


4 posted on 08/13/2007 6:32:30 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (Excellent Indeed!)
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To: CarrotAndStick
I know you may not be able to answer this, but...

With a large Muslim population, how does the Indian military guard against sedition and sabotage from militant Muslims in their own ranks?

5 posted on 08/13/2007 6:34:42 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: F-117A

Traditional Islam in Kashmir is a heavily Sufi(blend of Hindu, Muslim, other elements) version. For example, they don’t have a “tradition” of veils for women.

When Pakistan-trained militants began to impose the hardline version of Islam there, opposition against them arose. It is these people who are being mentioned here, besides the ethnic Hindu Kashmiri minority.


6 posted on 08/13/2007 6:43:03 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: F-117A
Some Muslims may or may not like India but they all hate Pakistan even more considering how “Mohajirs” (Indian Muslims emigrants to Pakistan) have been treated.
7 posted on 08/13/2007 6:49:49 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: F-117A
Oops, I read your query once more. So, here's the reply:

India has a large Muslim population, but it is still a minority. The overall population of India has a share of about 11% Muslims.

You might find this interesting:

 

 


 

Muslims in the Army: A dangerous census
 

http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/14guest.htm


Colonel (Dr) Anil Athale (retd)

February 14, 2006

After its projects to change Indian history to 'secular' history, the United Progressive Alliance govt seems to have launched a project to make the army 'secular'.

The Indian Army is an apolitical, professional body that is extremely proud of its dharma of loyalty to the nation and its Constitution. It does not believe in practising discrimination on the basis of religion, caste or colour.

I felt a tremendous sense of pride when at an Independence Day function in Pune in 2002 (in the aftermath of the horrible Gujarat riots) Qutubuddin Ansari, the tailor from Ahmedabad who became famous as the face of that tragedy, told me it was the Indian Army's timely arrival that had saved him and his family.

In an emotion choked voice, he said throughout his life he would pray for the success of the Indian Army. Many officers and men have told me how Muslims greeted the army's arrival by showering them with flowers. The army's impartial conduct in quelling riots is a matter of great pride to all soldiers.

'We are an apolitical and secular force'

An army All-faith prayer hallThe Indian Army is a traditional force and many battalions are organised on the basis of regions and caste. Thus we have the Sikh regiment, the Marathas, the Gorkhas etc. But this does not apply at the officer level. So it is no surprise to see a Mohammed Zaki commanding Garhwali troops or a Y N Sharma as commanding officer of the Grenadiers(which incidentally has Muslim soldiers).

As head of the family, which is what a commanding officer is, it is common for Zaki to conduct the puja on Janmashtami, celebrating the birth of Lord Krishna, or for Sharma to lead the namaz on Id Ul Fitr after Ramzan.

Faced with an insurgency in Kashmir that freely uses religion as a motivating factor, the army has has constructed combined prayer halls, called Sarva Dharma Sthal ( All Religion Place of Worship) where you have all the gods and symbols of all religions under one roof. These can be found at in Anantnag in Kashmir and even in Pune.

It is undoubtedly true that the number of Muslims in the Army is less than their proportion in the population. This is a historical legacy as the recruitment of Muslims in the armed forces in pre-Independence India was concentrated in Punjab, North West Frontier and Balochistan, all part of Pakistan today.

A similar argument can be also made on the basis of region. The states of Orissa or Gujarat or even Andhra Pradesh are not represented in proportion to their population. To assume any bias on this basis is to see evil where none exists.

The all-wise Sachar Committee has initiated an exercise that is fraught with great danger as it hits at the very notion of fair play. The basis on which this exercise is being carried out is a book by an American citizen, Omar Khalidi, (Khaki and Ethnic Violence in India). Khalidi works at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the United States. As a matter of record, he had got in touch with me about two years ago seeking data on the Indian Army. It is another matter that seeing his intention, I and my colleagues refused any cooperation. But he obviously has won over Sachar and party.

We ought to smell a rat when the Sachar Committee approvingly quotes from Khalidi's book and makes it as the basis for its 'work.'

What every soldier finds most objectionable in the exercise is Sachar's notion of equating the armed forces with any other department of the central government. Could Mr Sachar please tell us in which other organisation is dying for the country part of the 'job'?

The committee also had the gall to say that the army made 'unnecessary fuss about this on grounds of regimental spirit and cohesion.' Do the Sachar committee members realise that the two factors -- regimental spirit and cohesion -- are the very soul of any army?

These are the factors that bind soldiers and officers to each other. People sacrifice their lives on the battlefield for the izzat (respect) of the regiment and save their comrades at the risk of their own lives.

Without these an army is merely a mob of armed violent men which would melt at the first sign of danger. When someone terms this as 'frivolous', it betrays a mindset that is not merely stupid, but dangerous.

Diary: Soldiers' God

Finally, a word about desertion during Hyderabad action (in 1948-1949) and Turtuk problem during the Kargil operations in 1999.

During the Hyderabad action, the Indian Army was in process of division between India and Pakistan on grounds of religion. To call these acts as desertion would label the entire Pakistani army as 'deserters.'

During the Kargil operations, the small population of Turtuk area was a complex issue. This area, right till 1971, was part of Pakistan and was captured during that war. The area had many ex-soldiers of the Pakistani army, still receiving pension. To expect them to become pro-India was not fair. So what was proposed (possibly) during the Kargil war, was not evacuation of Muslims, but evacuation of ex-Pakistanis from a sensitive battle zone. Are there any such reports regarding the Muslim population of Kargil, Dras etc?

Many former and serving soldiers believe that this data collection is the thin end of the wedge of introducing religion or caste-based reservations in the armed forces.

The Sachar Committee's bias has been clearly shown by their reliance on foreign research. It is time the government prohibits the Sachar Committee from dealing with the armed forces.

This does not mean that the government should not ask the army to conduct an exercise as to why the proportion of Muslims or Christians or Gujaratis is less in the armed forces.

Finally a counter question to the Sachar Committee: What is the proportion of Muslim employees in Muslim-owned companies like Wipro and Cipla? If it is less than their proportion in population, do we take it that the Muslim owners of these companies are also against the minorities?

Is there no limit to 'vote bank' politics, for the sake of which a government is prepared to destroy the efficiency and cohesion of its armed forces and jeopardise the nation's security?


 


8 posted on 08/13/2007 6:55:44 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I always said an AK-47 is a perfect girls gun (which is why my wife has one). It’s small, reliable, easy to use, packs a respectable punch at close range, and it’s as visually intimidating as any weapon out there, reducing the odds that you ever have to fire a shot.


9 posted on 08/13/2007 7:50:38 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: CarrotAndStick; Gengis Khan

Thanks gentlemen!


10 posted on 08/13/2007 8:54:25 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: tcostell
Its also one of the most reliable weapons ever invented. Most importantly a terrorist would know more then anyone else what it means to actually face an AK-47. What goes around comes around.
11 posted on 08/13/2007 9:11:30 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: CarrotAndStick
I hope they let the Jihadies live

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long enough to realize they’ve been killed by a female. A Muslim female no less.

12 posted on 08/13/2007 9:04:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: isaiah55version11_0
We can dream of the day when New York and D.C. woman have the same freedoms as India.

DC women's time is coming. Probably as early as next spring or early summer. If not, we got big problems from sea to shining sea. Big problems.

If we don't have *those* problems, then we can begin to work on the problems of the citizens of the United States who happen to live in New York City, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California, among others.

13 posted on 08/13/2007 9:07:07 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CarrotAndStick
The states of Orissa or Gujarat or even Andhra Pradesh are not represented in proportion to their population.

Be that as it may, the brother of a former coworker of mine is a retired Indian Army Signal Corps Colonel. They are from Orissa. Of course they are Brahmans. Their Dad, beard, breach cloth (yea I know that's not the correct term) and all was a sort of cross between an old west style "circuit judge" and justice of the peace. Big family with lots of MDs, and my Physics PhD coworker, little brother is or at least was a slacker.

14 posted on 08/13/2007 9:15:12 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CarrotAndStick
My daughters can handle .22, .38, 9mm, .357 hand guns (maybe bigger, we just haven’t any in the house at present), along with .22LR, Winchester 94 30/30, and 7.64mm semi-auto rifles. They start with the .22s at about age 10. We tell them, quite frankly, they should know the best way to fire from the kitchen window, should the enemy ever march or slither down our street.
15 posted on 08/13/2007 9:26:35 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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