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Time Travel Could Be Possible ... In The Future
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-8-2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 08/08/2007 2:53:20 PM PDT by blam

Time travel could be possible ... in the future

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 7:01pm BST 08/08/2007

Time travel really could be a possibility for future generations, according to an eminent professor.

Prof Stephen Hawking refutes the possibility of time travel

Prof Amos Ori has set out a theoretical model of a time machine which would allow people to travel back in time to explore the past.

The way the machine would work rests on Einstein’s theory of general relativity, a theory of gravity that shows how time can be warped by the gravitational pull of objects.

Bend time enough and you can create a loop and the possibility of temporal travel.

Prof Ori’s theory, set out in the prestigious science journal Physical Review, rests on a set of mathematical equations describing hypothetical conditions that, if established, could lead to the formation of a time machine, technically known as “closed time-like curves.”

In the blends of space and time, or spacetime, in his equations, time would be able to curve back on itself, so that a person travelling around the loop might be able to go further back in time with each lap.

In the past, one of the major challenges has been the alleged need for an exotic material with strange properties - what physicists call negative density - to create these time loops.

“This is no longer an issue,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

“You can construct a time machine without exotic matter,” he said.

It is now possible to use any material, even dust, so long as there is enough of it to bend spacetime into a loop.

Even though Prof Ori, of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology, believes his new work strengthens the possibility of a real Tardis, he would not speculate on when a time machine would be built, or even if it would ever be possible.

“There are still some open questions.”

The main remaining issue is the stability of space time, the very fabric of the cosmos, in time travel scenarios.

But overcoming this obstacle may require the next generation of theory under development, called quantum gravity, which attempts to blend general relativity with the ideas of the quantum theory, the mathematical ideas that rule the atomic world.

Time travel has long been a fascination, HG Wells grappled with the scientific issues in his 1895 science fiction classic, The Time Machine, Dr Who is still fighting the time war and Hollywood insisted all that was needed for time travel was a De Lorean and a good flash of lightning.

But more serious work on general relativity first raised the astonishing possibility of time travel in the 1940s.

In the half century since, many eminent physicists have argued against time travel because it undermines ideas of cause and effect to create paradoxes so that a time traveller could go back to kill his grandfather so that she is never born in the first place.

In 1990, the world’s best known scientist, Prof Stephen Hawking proposed a “chronology protection conjecture”, which flatly says the laws of physics disallow time machines.

Three years later, Prof Ori concluded that the possibility of constructing a time machine from conventional materials could not be ruled out.

Prof Hawking then fought back with his Cambridge University colleague Michael Cassidy and they concluded that time loops are extremely unlikely.

Tongue in cheek, Prof Hawking added that there is experimental evidence that time travel doesn’t exist: “We have no reliable evidence of visitors from the future. (I’m discounting the conspiracy theory that UFOs are from the future and that the government knows and is covering it up. Its record of cover-ups is not that good.)”

But now, in Physical Review, Prof Ori has provided some more advanced solutions to the problems of time travel outlined by the likes of Prof Hawking, helping to realise an idea that dates back millennia and appears in 18th century literature, Harry Potter, Dickens, sci-fi movies and much more besides.


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KEYWORDS: future; time; travel
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1 posted on 08/08/2007 2:53:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Hey, time travel is possible now. I’m traveling thru time. You’re traveling thru time.

Even Howard Dean and John Kerry are traveling thru time. They’re just traveling backwards, that’s all.


2 posted on 08/08/2007 2:55:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: blam

If so, would it still be the future, or would it be the present....


3 posted on 08/08/2007 2:55:20 PM PDT by colorcountry (Silence isn't always golden.....Sometimes it's just yellow!)
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To: blam

If it’s possible in the future, then they (the future people) must already be here, in which case they would have told us by now... oooh, this guy always makes my head want to explode!


4 posted on 08/08/2007 2:55:39 PM PDT by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: blam

If time travel were possible, there would have been 500,000 people at Fenway Park to see the Bosox win the 2005 World Series, because people will not get a chance to see that for the next 500 years.

If time travel were possible, somebody would have come back to stop 9/11.


5 posted on 08/08/2007 2:55:44 PM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: BurbankKarl; JennysCool

John titor travel ping


6 posted on 08/08/2007 2:56:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: blam

Haven’t they already explored the past, then?


7 posted on 08/08/2007 2:56:34 PM PDT by pcottraux (Fred Thompson pronounces it "P. Coe-troe"...in 2008.)
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To: blam
"Tongue in cheek, Prof Hawking added that there is experimental evidence that time travel doesn’t exist: “We have no reliable evidence of visitors from the future."

Maybe the means needs to be invented before that will happen.
8 posted on 08/08/2007 2:57:06 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: Brilliant

I have a device that permits me to walk right through walls. Its called a door.


9 posted on 08/08/2007 2:57:40 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: blam
Try one of these:


10 posted on 08/08/2007 2:58:33 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred's Campaign: A hell of an opening, coast for a while, and then have a hell of a close.)
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To: blam

I’m with Hawking


11 posted on 08/08/2007 2:58:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: attiladhun2

ill take a dozen!


12 posted on 08/08/2007 2:59:18 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, friends, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: gridlock

“If time travel were possible, there would have been 500,000 people at Fenway Park to see the Bosox win the 2005 World Series, because people will not get a chance to see that for the next 500 years.”

ROTFLMBO!!


13 posted on 08/08/2007 3:00:25 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: blam
I can’t help but feel we’ve had this discussion before. ;O)
14 posted on 08/08/2007 3:00:54 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Babe Ruth would have hit 1200 homers on steroids : )


15 posted on 08/08/2007 3:01:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
“If time travel were possible, there would have been 500,000 people at Fenway Park to see the Bosox win the 2005 World Series, because people will not get a chance to see that for the next 500 years.”

It would be worse for Cubs fans.
16 posted on 08/08/2007 3:02:25 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: blam

Come on.. Come on..


17 posted on 08/08/2007 3:05:01 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: gridlock

“If time travel were possible, somebody would have come back to stop 9/11.”

Not necessarily, things could have been worse if it was an Al-Qaeda terrorist to revisit 9/11.


18 posted on 08/08/2007 3:08:09 PM PDT by 353FMG (Take me seriously at your own peril.)
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To: gridlock
The theory is: You can go no further back in time than when the first time machine was created.

Living creatures will probably never be able to actually travel through time, only information in one form or another.

Therefore, they will know they have successfully created a time machine when they turn it on and start receiving information from the future.

Personally, at some point I think it can and will be done, but I also believe it will be a huge mistake.

Example - I am going to marry a women. She goes to the time machine place and pays to see if the relationship will work out. It doesn't, so she doesn't marry me and the child that we would have had that was the person whom would have stopped the future nuclear war was never born. Bad idea.

19 posted on 08/08/2007 3:08:13 PM PDT by Greystoke
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To: stephenjohnbanker; blam

If time travel ever happens, they’ll make us pick one event. It’ll take me so long to make up my mind which one I would choose that I’d miss my turn!


20 posted on 08/08/2007 3:08:15 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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