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The Root of the Problem
Christian Post ^ | July 27, 2007 | D. James Kennedy

Posted on 07/29/2007 2:52:20 PM PDT by balch3

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To: jbp1

““It” is evolution—the theory, first introduced by Charles Darwin, that says we are the product not of a benevolent Creator, but of a blind, random, and spontaneous process. “

I think the body came from the primordial soup, our emotional side came from our ego and our spirit came from God.

In my home, we say the body is not whole until the physical, emotional and spiritual sides are reconciled. We are troubled as a race because it is nearly impossible to have all three working together at the same time.

This misalignment causes sin.

This is why people spend their entire lives meditating and doing all of these physical, emotional and spiritual exercises. To come into alignment with ones self.

Sounds tinfoil hatlike I know, but there are others on this earth who do different things to bring themselves into alignment and they aren’t Christian.

Are we to discount their beliefs because they differ from ours? We will argue God vs Evolution till the end of time. In my opinion, I really don’t care where I came from. I am here, I worship my God, I try to keep myself emotionally and physically centered and I am happy.

To me, that is the true meaning of life, liberty and the pursuit of happy hour... err I mean happiness.


21 posted on 07/29/2007 6:54:26 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")
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To: balch3
My earnest prayer is that the Lord will topple the whole monstrous edifice of evolution, which has brought so much death and despair into human existence. May evolution’s collapse be swift and complete! In its place may Christ be glorified, and the wondrous effects of His ethical, moral, and spiritual teaching prevail once more in our nation and in this world.

Amen. But there are two major kinds of false religions abroad in the world today and not just one, i.e. evolutionism and I-slam. May they both die out from the world within the shortest time possible.

22 posted on 07/29/2007 7:18:14 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: balch3
Best description of the basic problem I know of is still Sir Arthur Keith's "Evolution and Ethics".

The leader of Germany is an evolutionist not only in theory, but, as millions know to their cost, in the rigor of its practice. For him the national "front" of Europe is also the evolutionary "front"; he regards himself, and is regarded, as the incarnation of the will of Germany, the purpose of that will being to guide the evolutionary destiny of its people....

... "Humanitarianism is an evil . . . a creeping poison." "The most cruel methods are humane if they give a speedy victory" is Hitler's echo of a maxim attributed to Moltke. Such are the ways of evolution when applied to human affairs.

...I have said nothing about the methods employed by the Nazi leaders to secure tribal unity in Germany methods of brutal compulsion, bloody force, and the concentration camp. Such methods cannot be brought within even a Machiavellian system of ethics, and yet may be justified by their evolutionary result.


23 posted on 07/29/2007 7:25:54 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: balch3

It’s very strange how people on both sides of this issue are so emotionally invested in one outcome or the other.


24 posted on 07/29/2007 7:29:20 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: balch3; Coyoteman
“It” is evolution—the theory, first introduced by Charles Darwin, that says we are the product not of a benevolent Creator, but of a blind, random, and spontaneous process.

Not so. Evolution means changes in the gene pool of a population over time.

Charles Darwin opposed eugenics as the term is understood at this website.

Scientific hypotheses, theories, and laws are misused by malevolent people with some regularity. That does not render them any less viable . . . it just means that jerks will be jerks. If one takes the position that scientists should not put forth their data and interpret it because people like Hitler might misuse it, there would be no scientific progress whatsoever.

There is no doubt in my mind that Hitler would have found justification for his desires regardless of whether Darwin had published his work or not.

25 posted on 07/29/2007 7:39:51 PM PDT by freespirited (Thank you for not lying about Republicans.)
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To: rickdylan

My earnest prayer is that the Lord will topple the whole monstrous edifice of evolution, which has brought so much death and despair into human existence. May evolution’s collapse be swift and complete! In its place may Christ be glorified, and the wondrous effects of His ethical, moral, and spiritual teaching prevail once more in our nation and in this world.

The world was paradise until evolution came along.


26 posted on 07/29/2007 7:46:13 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: burzum
They believe in Creationism because they *want* it to be true and they *fear* the consequences if it were not true,

Such silliness.

The Universe is the expression of the mind of God. Failing to grasp that simple truth leads the godless into endless intellectual contortions, not the least of which is the doctrine of blind chance.

27 posted on 07/29/2007 7:55:08 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Why did God take so much care to make Creation glow? He could have made it black and white, and we would never know.”


28 posted on 07/29/2007 7:58:19 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: balch3

AMEN! “The Bible teaches that man is an immortal creature created in the image of God.” Which is why I believe the SCOTUS has infringed on my rights as a Christian in allowing anyone to desecrate the image of the One True God when they legalized abortion. The image of God is desecrated when they trash the bodies of the unborn.
Also, I was just thinking this today. Why have we not ever seen a tv documentary on the FALSEHOODS of evolution? There are so many! There are plenty of scientists and mathematicians who could simply explain why evolution is a crock. Why not give these kids some hope!


29 posted on 07/29/2007 8:03:36 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Coyoteman

Hitler was strongly opposed to atheism. He did not, however, want the State becoming embroiled in religious matters.

Reading Hitler’s “Table Talks” shows him to be a Deist.

“Fundamentally in everyone there is the feeling for this almighty, which we call ‘God’ (that is to say, the dominion of natural laws throughout the whole universe). The priests, who have always succeeded in exploiting this feeling, threaten punishments for the man who refuses to accept the creed they impose.”

Hitler was certainly no Christian:

“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practices a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its keynote is intolerance.” - from “Table Talks”.

You can read more anti-christian (indeed, anti-any-religion) rhetoric of Hitler’s “Table Talks” here: http://library.flawlesslogic.com/religion.htm


30 posted on 07/29/2007 8:10:30 PM PDT by phredo53
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To: Rudder

Dear Rudder, I just finished a college intro to biology and that is exactly what I learned from my book, and it was all based on evolution. Very intelligent, basing life on chance, just like John Cage based his music on chance and loved to hunt for and eat wild mushrooms. Ironic, eh?


31 posted on 07/29/2007 8:10:40 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Coyoteman

Evolution is defined as heritable change in a line of descent: occurs by microevolutionary events (mutation, natural selection, genetic drift and gene flow). I can see how populations would change over time, but the DNA was there from the start. Unless a mutation occurred in the DNA of the egg or sperm it would not be inherited. A leg would not form spontaneously on both sides of a species, and the law of ‘use it or lose it’ would make a ‘leg bud’ disappear since it is useless. IMHO. Seen any mutations recently that are not destructive? Let me know. I really can’t accept this theory. It just doesn’t fit.


32 posted on 07/29/2007 8:19:08 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776
Very intelligent, basing life on chance...

You failed to learn the whole theory of evolution. Natural selection imposes another force, the environment, upon the chance you mention. From then on, there's little chance except to survive.

I really don't know if 'intelligence' is involved, since there's no evidence supporting that contention, and it's been very difficult to find a workable, operational definition of intelligence. But, nevertheless, the system has produced some interesting variations, including you.

33 posted on 07/29/2007 8:23:19 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I don’t believe Adam was created by soup. How would he stand up? :) Anyway, I do believe Adam was created out of the dust of the earth, why are our skin colors the same as dirt, brown, red, white, yellow? And the earth, or dirt, has all that we are in it minus 80% water, right?


34 posted on 07/29/2007 8:25:05 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: phredo53
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/religion.htm

You want me to go to a website named flawlesslogic.com/religion?

Is this a joke? I can tell from the name I have no desire to go there.

35 posted on 07/29/2007 8:28:47 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Rudder

Individualism is another reason it doesn’t fit for me. Everything is unique. Nothing is identical. And believe me, you are not the only one who has said I am a variation. I like that though, its nicer than stupid or weird.


36 posted on 07/29/2007 8:29:50 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: art_rocks

The world wasn’t paradise prior to Darwin, it’s not meant to be paradise. But to go into the history books and find grief comparable to that which evolution and the isms based on it have brought about, you have to go back to Genghis Khan. Nothing else is comparable.


37 posted on 07/29/2007 8:36:45 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Rudder

Speaking of biology, which I love by the way, have you heard that bacteria communicate? Cool, eh?


38 posted on 07/29/2007 8:42:02 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776
I can see how populations would change over time, but the DNA was there from the start. Unless a mutation occurred in the DNA of the egg or sperm it would not be inherited. A leg would not form spontaneously on both sides of a species, and the law of ‘use it or lose it’ would make a ‘leg bud’ disappear since it is useless. IMHO. Seen any mutations recently that are not destructive? Let me know. I really can’t accept this theory. It just doesn’t fit.

Of course mutations occurred; that's why one generation differs from the previous! (This is beyond the normal mixing of nuclear DNA from male and females.)

You are making the standard creationist mistake of expecting gross changes, "lizard to chicken" in one generation. I don't know why you folks keep coming up with this nonsense, as no scientist would expect such a change. I guess you can't argue against what evolution really says, so you have to make up strawmen to knock down.

Evolution works slowly, with incremental changes from generation to generation. Over time, the changes accumulate.

Most mutations are benign, many are detrimental and a few are favorable.

You want examples of mutations that are not destructive? OK, try these:

Light skin in Lapland (to facilitate vitamin D production in an area of weak sunlight).

Tanning ability around the Mediterranean (intermediate between light and dark skin to protect against UV light during the summer but to allow vitamin D production during the winter).

Narrow noses in northern Europe, developed during the Ice Ages (warming and moisturizing of cold air before it reaches the lungs). Similar mutations occurred independently in Mongolian races.

Sickle-cell anemia and Thalassemia (provide some protection from malaria).

You can find a lot more examples of non-destructive mutations in any good book on human races.

Hope this helps.

39 posted on 07/29/2007 8:44:07 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

“Of course mutations occurred; that’s why one generation differs from the previous!”
How are they inherited?


40 posted on 07/29/2007 8:48:10 PM PDT by huldah1776
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