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Cozy with La Raza
NumbersUSA ^ | July 23, '07 | Staff

Posted on 07/25/2007 5:48:27 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

If a GOP candidate sought votes from a white group calling itself the "National Council of the Race," he'd rightly be shunned as a racist. But let the Democrats do the same and they're called "progressive." Hillary and Obama appeared before the National Council of La Raza ("The Race"), a radical Latino group. Obama pandered by saying he'd "walked the walk" for amnesty and would revive the sunken immigration bill that went down in flames in the Senate. "We will make this a priority and get it done," he said. Hillary buys into the idea that the bill's end was brought on by what La Raza calls a "wave of hate" and hired a top La Raza official, Raul Yzaguirre, as her financial co-chair. La Raza is not only the loudest proponent of illegal immigration in the U.S. It fosters ethnic separatism in schools. It runs Hugo Chavez-type handouts for indigents and refuses to renounce fringe groups like MEChA, whose own slogan is derived from from the rhetoric of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro: "Through the race, everything; outside the race, nothing." Today's La Raza is a $52 million not-for-profit group that that lives off congressional earmarks and shakes down big corporations like Wal Mart and Bank of America for financial support while at the same time making illegal immigration and ethnic separatism its leading agenda.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; laraza
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To: Czar
Example #1:
Amendment 3820 to S1664 allows for the continuation of benefits to illegals.. On several candidate’s votes, they have labeled voting against this bill as supporting illegal benefits because the title says it ‘restricts benefits’ even though the meat of the bill actually grants continuation of the benefits:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r104:1:./temp/~r104FLSz4Z::
(b) Exceptions: Subsection (a) shall not apply with respect to the following benefits:
(1) Emergency medical services under title XIX of the Social Security Act.
(2) Short-term emergency disaster relief.
(3) Assistance or benefits under the National School Lunch Act.
(4) Assistance or benefits under the Child Nutrition Act of 1966.
(5) Public health assistance for immunizations and, if the Secretary of Health and Human Services determines that it is necessary to prevent the spread of a serious communicable disease, for testing and treatment of such disease.

Basically, it prohibits benefits to illegals except, it also grants benefits to illegals like lunch programs, medical, generic ‘disaster relief’, etc.. are you for granting these things to illegals?

You can say by voting Nay that he voted to give benefits, but by voting Yea for this bill, if you look at the exceptions, you are also voting to give benefits to illegals.. This amendment is a lose-lose and no matter how someone voted, the same thing could be said..

Example #2
S1156- This is one of the worst examples of misrepresentation of votes on their site (specifically Fred Thompson in this case) Fred Thompson actually voted Nay on S1156 ( http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00265 ) But NumbersUSA lists him as voting for it.. instead of looking at this vote on the actual bill, they ignored that and took one procedural vote to move it from one committee to another and labeled it as supporting the bill..

Example #3
Several Senators are listed as voting for S1664, however, S1664 never made it to a vote, it was killed in committee: ( http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?cs_id=V907&can_id=53292 )- again, they take a procedural vote to move a bill from one committee to another committee and label that as supporting the bill.

How about Mr. Beck.. in my mind he is a lot like Lou Dobbs.. he says a few things that are right, and people follow everything he says without examination of motive or accuracy. Mr. Beck himself associates himself with liberal causes:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1528
http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/environment.html

Just because the guy in the van offers you your favorite candy, doesn’t mean he has your best interests at heart.. Investigate everything.. especially those who tell you what you want to hear..

I encourage everyone to investigate for themselves..I can keep going adding bills and showing how they are twisting things for their own agenda, but people won't believe unless they find it themselves..

Question all; blindly follow nothing- even if it sounds good.

21 posted on 07/25/2007 7:07:58 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Czar
Something that is also disturbing is Beck’s association with Leon Kolankiewicz’s Environmental Population Stabilization movement (warning, you won’t like this):

http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/Retreat2.pdf

Always question the guy in the van offering you candy!

22 posted on 07/25/2007 7:15:05 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Kimberly GG
Ping 21 & 22 Kimberly
I forgot to send you these links yesterday..
23 posted on 07/25/2007 7:17:58 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Czar

..this isn’t damning, but it sure is funny.. they rate Al Gore A-:

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=TN&VIPID=744&retired=1

..and someone who runs on an anti-illegal platform and is praised here, Brownback, they rate a D:

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=KS&VIPID=317


24 posted on 07/25/2007 7:29:58 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: mnehrling; Czar
Liberals and open border RINOs detest Lou Dobbs, yet nobody has shown his reports to be anything but accurate. He even did a special on the leprosy report that the liberals had twisted to their own end. Also, a lot of people don't know that his wife is Hispanic and they continue to malign him.

From one of the links you posted:

The underlying message is that the United States could address such related problems as traffic congestion, high energy prices, pollution, and oil-related wars if it only shut off the main source of population growth.

I'm not sure what the problem is with that. Before President Reagan and the 1980s, the environment was not a partisan issue. Nixon passed more environmental legislation than any other president, and Teddy Roosevelt was a great conservationist.

I encourage everyone to investigate for themselves..I can keep going adding bills and showing how they are twisting things for their own agenda...

I'm truly curious if you follow your own advice when it comes to a very liberal, globalist, and anti-U.S. sovereignty president and his friends in the Senate. Do you advise others to examine Bush's motives? Or is it because they have Rs behind their names, is it all right to blindly follow?

25 posted on 07/25/2007 7:38:35 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: mnehrling; Czar

I don’t know about other states, but they are always spot on in their report cards in my state.


26 posted on 07/25/2007 7:40:18 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: MinuteGal
MM is highly suspect and Fred is foolish to listen to her. Unless of course he has figured that out and intends to do the opposite of what she says.
27 posted on 07/25/2007 7:48:46 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (The slaughterhouse is open, fowl processed for free.)
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To: TexasCajun

Hey, don’t joke. The sad thing is that all those Caucasian organazitions may come to pass, and what a sad day that would be.


28 posted on 07/25/2007 7:54:22 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Czar

LOL!!


29 posted on 07/25/2007 7:57:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: popdonnelly

Maybe Hillary is going after the Latino vote so aggresively because she knows that there’s a vote fraud machine already there that will work in her favor.


30 posted on 07/25/2007 7:58:29 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Borax Queen
Actually, there are are cases where they aren’t fair to Kyle.

S.AMDT.1311 they dock Kyle for voting against it, but they ignore why- the Rider added on by Biden to exempt the ‘Return of Talent’ program..

31 posted on 07/25/2007 8:01:37 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: mnehrling

Was this before or after Kyl betrayed us, lol?


32 posted on 07/25/2007 8:03:04 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: T.L.Sink

LA RAZA = KLAN WITH A TAN


33 posted on 07/25/2007 8:05:11 PM PDT by Buffettfan (3rd Battalion, 6th Marines - 1971 - 1974)
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To: Czar
There won't be 50 United States in 20 years.

Our nation is too damn stupid to survive much longer as a superpower.


34 posted on 07/26/2007 7:25:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: mnehrling
Normally, I would point out that NumbersUSA isn’t a credibile source

BS. Do you have specific examples to support that assertion?

35 posted on 07/26/2007 7:28:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: mnehrling
They’ve done a lot of harm to the anti-illegal/amnesty movement by linking it with legal immigration issues..

That's because the two issues are linked. The LEGAL immigration policies of this country must be changed, e.g., chain migration, visa lottery program, anchor babies, etc. And data show how legal immigration policies impact illegal immigration: Two Sides of the Same Coin: The Connection Between Legal and Illegal Immigration

36 posted on 07/26/2007 7:35:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: mnehrling
and someone who runs on an anti-illegal platform and is praised here, Brownback, they rate a D:

Brownback voted for the 2006 Senate amnesty bill and flip-flopped at the last moment on the 2007 bill when he voted against cloture.

37 posted on 07/26/2007 7:38:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Kabar...another home run. More food for thought...


38 posted on 07/26/2007 8:13:01 AM PDT by reuben kincaid
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To: kabar

Kabar...let’s keep the cursing at a minimum. My kids read this site.


39 posted on 07/26/2007 8:14:23 AM PDT by reuben kincaid
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To: Politicalmom
Politicalmom
Ping posts 21-22 regarding the recent email you got from NumbersUSA, you may want to post that here..
40 posted on 07/26/2007 2:15:26 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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