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S.D. Border Fence Construction Resumes(Just doing the job GWB won't do...)
NewsMax.com ^ | July 17, 2007 | staff

Posted on 07/16/2007 8:53:11 PM PDT by kellynla

SAN DIEGO -- Bulldozers are rolling again on the U.S.-Mexico border, moving hundreds of tons of dirt to make way for a 16-foot steel fence in an area that once was the most popular crossing for illegal immigrants.

But before the construction resumed recently, the 14-mile project in San Diego was stalled for years by legal challenges from environmentalists, budget problems and difficulties buying land. Those delays are now raising doubts about a government plan to extend fencing to 370 miles of the Mexican border.

The Bush administration, under pressure to tighten border security, wants all 370 miles done by the end of next year.

"If past experience is any guide, it will cost a lot more than anyone expected and take a lot longer than anyone is talking about right now," said David Shirk, director of the University of San Diego's Trans-Border Institute, which studies border issues.

The Homeland Security Department has yet to say where it will build fences in California, Arizona and New Mexico. And the only proposal made public so far - for Texas - drew immediate criticism and is being reworked. Opponents worried it would limit access to the Rio Grande, damage the environment and infuriate Mexicans who cross the border to shop and visit.

The 1,952-mile border stretches over sensitive terrain, including two national wildlife refuges in Arizona. And negotiations for land owned by scores of ranchers and Indian tribes may be challenging.

Democratic Rep. Silvestre Reyes of Texas predicted the construction of so much fencing will be a "huge problem," noting opposition among many residents and even some Border Patrol field leaders who would prefer the money be spent on manpower and equipment.

The San Diego fence, tilted 45 degrees at the top to deter climbers, starts at the coastline and stretches 14 miles inland. Construction began in 1996, and there are still five miles to go.

Until the mid-1990s, illegal immigrants had crossed in droves. They would slip across the border and huddle on U.S. soil as the handful of Border Patrol agents assigned to the area watched from a distance. When night fell, they ran for it.

"It was a never-ending battle, and we were losing very badly," said Don McDermott, a Border Patrol supervisor who worked the area in the 1980s.

The nine miles of fencing completed so far have had a dramatic impact, along with more manpower and stadium lighting. Arrests are way down in San Diego, but traffic shifted to Arizona deserts.

Those people who do make it across are increasingly desperate. More immigrants are attempting to swim across the border or crawl through crude tunnels, said Raleigh Leonard, supervisor of the Border Patrol's Imperial Beach station.

The final five miles of fencing in San Diego will cover some of the most rugged terrain and most sensitive habitats on the border. For example, to fill an area called "Smuggler's Gulch," crews are expected to move nearly 3 million tons of dirt - enough to fill about 100,000 giant dump trucks.

Border Patrol officials say they need a fence in the gulch because its urban surroundings give agents limited time to catch people before they melt into the local population.

But environmentalists worry that shifting dirt will spill north into a federally protected estuary, disrupting a key stopover for more than 370 species of migratory and native birds.

A 2005 law giving the federal government authority to waive all rules prohibiting fence construction prompted a judge to dismiss a legal challenge to the San Diego fence. The law should help smooth the way elsewhere along the border, too.

Homeland Security spokesman Brad Benson said the agency wants to be a good environmental steward and will favor a "virtual fence" of sensors, radar and cameras in remote, environmentally sensitive areas and on tribal lands.

The government believes it can finish the 370 miles of fence on time and hopes to avoid the kind of pitfalls that delayed work in San Diego, Benson said. He said Congress has appropriated enough money - $1 billion for fencing and other infrastructure - to complete the project and that, unlike San Diego, the terrain will not be such a hindrance.

"Most of what we'll build is out in flat desert, and it's not that hard to do," he said.

Within the next few weeks, Benson said, the agency will put final touches on plans to complete the 14-mile San Diego fence and then solicit construction bids. Homeland Security also began a series of public meetings this week along the border to discuss the agency's plans to extend the fence to 370 miles.

Shirk, of the University of San Diego's Trans-Border Institute, remains skeptical: "It's a really, really big project that won't go so quickly."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; fence; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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"Homeland Security also began a series of public meetings this week along the border to discuss the agency's plans to extend the fence to 370 miles."

Geeeezzzzzzz...the Chinese progressed better than these clowns.

1 posted on 07/16/2007 8:53:15 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx

ping


2 posted on 07/16/2007 8:53:53 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Environazis sued to stop the fence construction...GWB won the court cases...construction has begun again...but this is somehow both bad and Bush’s fault in your worldview?!

Sheesh!


3 posted on 07/16/2007 8:55:15 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: kellynla

My first thought, upon reading the headline, was ‘did we cede ND to Canada?’


4 posted on 07/16/2007 9:26:42 PM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Tagline currently under construction.)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

mine too! LOL


5 posted on 07/16/2007 9:30:04 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
damage the environment and infuriate Mexicans

WAAAAAAAHHHHAAAA!!

Cry me a rio.

6 posted on 07/16/2007 9:32:49 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Put the illegals on a path ... back to Mexico!)
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To: kellynla

Gotta watch these regional abbreviations:)


7 posted on 07/16/2007 9:34:07 PM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Tagline currently under construction.)
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To: Southack
"BushÂ’s fault?" just think...16 more months and you won’t have to make excuses any more for Bush’s failure to enforce the immigration laws & security of this country's borders that he took an oath to do when he entered office...of course we wouldn’t want to upset the Bush in-laws now would we. LOL
8 posted on 07/16/2007 9:42:21 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
"Opponents worried it would limit access to the Rio Grande, damage the environment and infuriate Mexicans who cross the border to shop and visit."

Are those the ones that come here to visit for life?
9 posted on 07/16/2007 9:43:58 PM PDT by It Aint Easy
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To: kellynla
I will draw you a map to explain what is wrong with illegal immigration
10 posted on 07/16/2007 9:44:10 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: kellynla; Brucifer; Squantos; Politicalmom; Calpernia; Eaker; TheMom; Jim Robinson; basil


Fred Thompson.

"We must push back and push back hard"... "Remember how we won in the 1980. We stuck to our conservative principles."
11 posted on 07/16/2007 9:45:34 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: kellynla

A couple of comments here:

First, anyone on the border who objects to the fence can have the fence built just to the north of them on the next approving American’s land.

Second, I thought Mexicans are too poor to buy American goods north of the border.

Third, migrant birds can clear a 16 foot fence and shifting dirt if they have too. Actually, this might even be a blessing for them. I see birds on top of my fences and electric poles all the time. Apparently these are place perfectly for their rest.

And finally, “virtual fences” are only good to stop “virtual illegal immigrants”.


12 posted on 07/16/2007 9:47:11 PM PDT by uptoolate (How can a Holy, Righteous, and Just God NOT kill me for what I said, thought and did yesterday)
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To: kellynla

Sensitive land- My sore butt.....

The illegal intruders aren’t at all “sensitive” about all the used diapers, bottles, prayer rugs, Koran copies, etc, that they are discarding on their trek north.

I am soooooo over the calls of the environazis complaining about each and everything we all do every day to try and protect this country. They can go sit on the border like they like to sit in redwood trees, IMO, and maybe one of them will grow a brain and get a clue.


13 posted on 07/16/2007 9:48:28 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Third, migrant birds can clear a 16 foot fence and shifting dirt if they have too.

Perhaps they meant birds in the British sense of the word, the American equivalent being chicks, of course. It would be more logical that women, and even children, would be hardest hit in having to scale a 16 foot fence.

14 posted on 07/16/2007 9:59:43 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Put the illegals on a path ... back to Mexico!)
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To: chaos_5

It would be more logical that women, and even children, would be hardest hit in having to scale a 16 foot fence.


As Martha would say “Thats a good thing”.


15 posted on 07/16/2007 10:04:10 PM PDT by CHEE (Shoot low, they're crawling.)
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To: chaos_5

If the Mexicans are that serious, I’d expect to see many catapults, mattresses, and duct tape showing up at the fence. Me guesses the children will travel farther than the woman.


16 posted on 07/16/2007 10:07:10 PM PDT by uptoolate (How can a Holy, Righteous, and Just God NOT kill me for what I said, thought and did yesterday)
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To: Southack; kellynla
Environazis sued to stop the fence construction...GWB won the court cases...construction has begun again...but this is somehow both bad and Bush’s fault in your worldview?!

Sheesh!

W should have issued an Executive Order on 09/12/01 to build the friggin' fence.

Where do we think these cells came from?

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17 posted on 07/16/2007 10:16:33 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kellynla

...”But environmentalists worry that shifting dirt will spill north into a federally protected estuary, disrupting a key stopover for more than 370 species of migratory and native birds”.....God give me strength!...These bird huggers will have a lot more to worry about if a dirty bomb gets into the country!...their precious birds wouldn’t have a damn estuary to land in!


18 posted on 07/16/2007 10:25:38 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

LOL! My first thought was, good, let’s keep those South Dakotans on their side of the border!! (I’m in N.Dak,)


19 posted on 07/16/2007 10:25:57 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER , the best man money can't buy!)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Well, if you’re that excited about it, I’ve often wondered if it isn’t the opposite. )- LOL!


20 posted on 07/16/2007 10:27:23 PM PDT by mirado ('...)
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