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To: BraveMan

What this article doesn’t tell us is how many bikers were killed by careless cagers.

In all reality, it might not be the biker’s fault but that of the car drives.

Yeah, I know, it doesn’t matter who is at fault, the biker is still dead, but articles like this tend to blame the victim.


8 posted on 07/15/2007 7:38:55 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (...and one mediator between man and God, the man Christ Jesus. Not Peter, Paul, or Mary.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Thank You!

Perhaps people would be better served if Angeline Schreiber directed her frustration towards the type of drivers who violated her parents’ right of way, causing the fatal accident in the first place. If we are to really change these gruesome statistics, we need to stop focusing on motorcycle accident survival and start focusing on motorcycle accident prevention.


14 posted on 07/15/2007 7:49:50 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Eagle Eye

Thank You!

Perhaps people would be better served if Angeline Schreiber directed her frustration towards the type of drivers who violated her parents’ right of way, causing the fatal accident in the first place. If we are to really change these gruesome statistics, we need to stop focusing on motorcycle accident survival and start focusing on motorcycle accident prevention.


15 posted on 07/15/2007 7:49:51 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Eagle Eye

Why is it that if somebody gets thrown from a horse or smeared on a bicycle everybody feels sorry for them but if you get murdered on your motorcycle people think you had it coming?

It also fails to consider that endlessly rising fuel costs are making the motorcycle a more attractive alternative every day. Not everybody can afford a$40,000 hybrid.


16 posted on 07/15/2007 7:50:29 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Eagle Eye

You’re right, the stats are only abour helmet use or alcohol and don’t address collision fatalities.

Which is why I’ll keep my nice Chrysler minivan “cage.”


19 posted on 07/15/2007 7:58:48 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Eagle Eye
What this article doesn’t tell us is how many bikers were killed by careless cagers.

In all reality, it might not be the biker’s fault but that of the car drives.

We stopped riding for the simple reason that the roads are getting more hostile and stupider.

Someone pulled out in front of my wife. She ONLY had three lights on the front of the bike. Her helmet was smashed when she went over the car and her leg was messed up but she recovered. A few weeks later, a Senile Citizen made a turn across the road in front of me. We had ridden since the late 1960's, but took these events as a "clue". Time to take our luck and cash out.

Another local syndrome is, "Mooooo! Gotta get the Kids to Soccer! What is YOUR life compared to THAT?...I'm BUSY!"

43 posted on 07/15/2007 8:35:15 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Eagle Eye
A friend of mine is in the hospital right now because of an idiot driver.

Ray had just retired and purchased a trike so he could do a lot of touring this fall. He brought it by the store to show everyone, then headed home to start packing for the trip. As he was heading up 313, he saw an ambulance coming his way with lights flashing and siren wailing, so he pulled over to the curb. The driver of the pickup behind him also pulled over, but he was rubber-necking to watch the ambulance and plowed into Ray at almost 40mph.

Ray ended up with a fractured skull (yes, he was wearing a helmet), a broken collarbone, both arms broken, seven ribs shattered, a cracked pelvis, a broken leg, and severe internal injuries. For a while, we thought he wasn't going to make it, but Ray is a tough old coot. He was in CCU for almost three weeks, but has now recovered enough that they have moved him to a regular hospital room and he is hoping to head home in a few days.

100 posted on 07/15/2007 10:28:54 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Eagle Eye
In all reality, it might not be the biker’s fault but that of the car drives.

Regardless of who may have been at fault, a bike is just no match against any type of automobile.

There is a plethora of idiots driving around in large steel vehicles which will easily kill anybody on a bike.

That's just the way it is.

120 posted on 07/15/2007 10:59:08 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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To: Eagle Eye
I worked for Honda motorcycles 40 years ago. At that time, the clear majority of accidents involving motorcycles were the fault of the other party. That's when motorcyclists started running with their lights on, so that the four-wheelers could see them.

Carolyn

145 posted on 07/15/2007 1:33:03 PM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Eagle Eye
You make a good point! On our freeways,it always surprises me how many bikers zip in and out of traffic....one time, we were in the diamond lane and a woman left the lane to move into regular lane and a biker stood on his front tire in order to avoid being “creamed”. I’ve had no fewer that 6 friends die in bike accidents...there are no minor accidents on a bike! In addition..bikes these days are much more powerful than before. I read a stat that said the average time from purchase to an accident on these racers is 3 weeks. If you want to feel the wind in your hair...set the dryer on Cool!
159 posted on 07/15/2007 2:48:32 PM PDT by tajgirvan ( Donate to Free Republic!)
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To: Eagle Eye

Yep - they get t-boned or head on crash, and these morons want to say “not wearing a helmet is a factor”. Right.


168 posted on 07/15/2007 3:09:34 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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