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Bin Laden’s deputy behind the Red Mosque bloodbath
timesonline.co.uk ^ | July 15 2007 | Dean Nelson, Islamabad and Ghulam Hasnain

Posted on 07/14/2007 7:10:32 PM PDT by Dog

AL-QAEDA’S leadership secretly directed the Islamic militants whose armed revolt at the Red Mosque in Islamabad ended last week with more than 100 deaths after it was stormed by the Pakistan army.

According to senior intelligence officials, the troops who finally took control discovered letters from Osama Bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. They were written to Abdul Rashid Ghazi and Abdul Aziz, the brothers who ran the mosque and adjacent madrasah.

Government sources said up to 18 foreign fighters � including Uzbeks, Egyptians and several Afghans � had arrived weeks before the final shootout and set up firing ranges to teach students, including children, how to handle weapons.

Al-Qaeda has wanted to open a Pakistan front in its global jihad since President Pervez Musharraf sided with America after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Diplomats were surprised by the speed with which the fugitive Zawahiri condemned the raid and called on Pakistanis to rise up against Musharraf.

The response to his appeal was equally swift. Twenty-seven soldiers were killed when a suicide attacker struck a military convoy in northwest Pakistan near the Afghan border yesterday. At least 58 have been killed in bombings and shootings since the Red Mosque crisis began 12 days ago.

This weekend street protests were organised by religious parties as the government dispatched thousands more soldiers to its troubled North West Frontier province.

Some were sent to the Swat Valley, where a suicide car bomber killed three policemen last Thursday and a madrasah controlled by Maulana Fazlullah, a militant mullah, is expected to be the next flashpoint. Fazlullah has been using a radio station to rally support for Al-Qaeda and has urged followers to arm themselves in preparation for a siege.

Ministers blamed the presence of foreign fighters for the breakdown of negotiations at the Red Mosque just as they seemed about to reach a deal to end the standoff peacefully.

According to government sources and western diplomats, Al-Qaeda sought martyrdom instead. “They wanted a poster boy for Pakistan and Ghazi was the perfect guy,” said one western diplomat.

Ghazi was shot dead in the army’s final assault on the mosque a week after his older brother tried to escape disguised in a burqa.

Musharraf’s use of overwhelming force to defeat the militants was welcomed not only by international allies in the war on terror but by Pakistan’s urban middle classes. Advisers were weighing up whether his declaration of war on militants, could be turned to political advantage.

His presidential term expires in September and he must decide whether to seek reappointment by the current parliament or call early parliamentary elections with the aim of securing a fresh mandate.

Diplomats believe an initial surge of support may already be fading, however, as concern grows over the number of women and children killed in the Red Mosque.

Ministers denied at first that any had died but the army has since admitted 19 bodies were “beyond recognition”. “They could be anybody, any age,” a spokesman said.

Although the interior ministry confirmed later that up to 25 women and children had been killed in the mosque, survivors suggested that the toll could be considerably higher.

Asma Hayat, 15, said she had seen several classmates shot and had been told of 15 other girls killed. She claimed she had seen “dozens” of 12 and 13-year-old boys dead, insisting: “Their faces were recognisable.”

According to Asma, she was handing out water to children affected by tear gas near the main gate when her friend Nasmeen, 17, was shot in the side.

When she went to help her, Nasmeen pushed her away, saying: “It feels good, it’s martyrdom.” She was taken away for treatment, but her father called a few days later to say she had died.

Bilal Sabir Khan, 11, claimed one of his friends had been shot in the foot and he saw “many martyrs and injured students on the roof of the library and the lawn in front of the mosque”.

At the Jinnah stadium, where more than 100 distraught relatives waited to learn the fate of their children, charity workers posted the names of those admitted to hospitals and morgues.

Mattiullah Khan, 50, said he had not spoken to his 16-year-old nephew Mohammed Yusuf since the previous week, when the boy had said he wanted to escape. “He didn’t want to be a martyr,” his uncle said.

The lists of injured, dead and detained told their own story of panic and terror. Among those held in Adyala jail were a six-year-old boy, with two nine-year-olds for company.

There were 23 names on the list of confirmed dead, many of them aged 15 and 16. At the Federal Government Services hospital, 34 girls under 16 were treated for tear gas inhalation, including a six-year-old, four girls of eight, and many more younger than 12.

Hamid Gul, a former head of Pakistan’s ISI intelligence service, said statistics like these, and the stories of dead and injured children, could drive Musharraf from power. “The government is trying to hide the number of young girls killed,” he claimed. “As the truth comes out that young girls were gassed and burnt, riddled with bullets and killed, it’ll be bad for Musharraf.”


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To: Sherman Logan
There is a definite possibility of the Taliban and al Quaeda getting control of Pakistan.

Extremely unlikely - The Jihadists / Taliban types have strong support virtually only in the border regions.....The Pak military isn't about to "share" power with them....The Pak "moderates" make up a sizable share to boot.....No, AQ/Taliban elements have very little chance of taking over Pak in all likelihood.

Though they do have much support within the border regions - But they are isolated to a degree -

The ISI (Sr. players) also have strong loyalties to Musharraff. Musharraff also have a great deal of support throughout the Pak Mil HQs...

21 posted on 07/14/2007 7:51:01 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Sherman Logan
And a (US) Democrat president would do what about it? Nothing, thus setting the world up for a Islamist Caliphate, which would be nuclear, full of religious zeal and expansionist, quickly leading us to WW 3. The Nazis wanted to avoid war, but the Caliphate would welcome it because it would hasten the return of the Twelfth Imam, their savior. Win-Win for death and chaos.
22 posted on 07/14/2007 7:52:34 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: DevSix

I do hope you are right.


23 posted on 07/14/2007 7:54:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Dog

—Maulana Fazlullah, a militant mullah—

O Lollobrigidah, your soup I diggidah,
and if there’a a jewel, it’s your pasta fazool...
(with apologies to Hanna-Barbera Inc.)


24 posted on 07/14/2007 7:55:30 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: theBuckwheat

What do you thin any US president should (or could) do about it?

Do you think an invasion of a nuclear-armed country of 170M people with a non-Keystone Cops army is feasible?


25 posted on 07/14/2007 7:56:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: DevSix

“Extremely unlikely - The Jihadists / Taliban types have strong support virtually only in the border regions.....”

Just curious, what do you base that statement on?


26 posted on 07/14/2007 7:56:26 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: expatguy

I hate to say it, but if we’re going to win this war, we have to stop hand wringing every time women and children get hurt. The enemy knows we do this and acts accordingly. A highly dishonorable, but effective tactic which we must learn to counter.


27 posted on 07/14/2007 8:01:15 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Dog

Maybe they’re losing their foothold in Iraq and are now forming up for the last stand in Pakistan. Gotem boxed in now.


28 posted on 07/14/2007 8:04:16 PM PDT by Master of Orion
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To: Dog
From an objective point of view, it looks like that every time al-Queda tries to kill Mushy, many of them end up dead. Can't happen to a nicer bunch of folks...

Oh, and in the fwiw department, I think ol' Binny boy is still dead.

5.56mm

29 posted on 07/14/2007 8:05:12 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: jedward

You do know the 3rd Elite Commando of Punjab are mostly
Sikhs ?,,,they made the assault on the mosque,,,
I don’t think perv has much trust in some of his army,,,


30 posted on 07/14/2007 8:05:44 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Dog
Perhaps Musharraf is getting a bit fed up. Maybe they will truly squeeze the bad guys out of the border area into the sights of the good guys.

I know the driveby doesn't like it but the only time a war ends is when one side wins.

31 posted on 07/14/2007 8:14:48 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: rbg81
I understand what you are saying very well.

The thing is that I believe many Americans including our government does not seem to understand how fluid the situation is in Pakistan - It is that bad.

What concerns me is that the Taliban militants are firmly entrenched less than 100 miles from one of Pakistan's plutonium reactors - and the likelihood that a nuclear weapon were to fall into Al Qaeda's hands is getting closer to reality.

Our government has backed this guy 100% which leaves us no other option - when he falls (and it will be soon) we are screwed.

The analogy I gave to another FReeper is that it would be the same as if Bush were to instruct the military to start hunting down Democrats

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

32 posted on 07/14/2007 8:15:23 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1863304/posts?page=147

Yep. Mentioned there...


33 posted on 07/14/2007 8:17:34 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Dog

Might I suggest some above ground nuclear weapons testing in Wazirastan?


34 posted on 07/14/2007 8:23:20 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Dog

A couple of comments about the article: 1) Why did the authors not remind us that a madrassa is a religious school? 2) Why do they say the guy was disguised in a burqa instead of disguised as a woman?


35 posted on 07/14/2007 8:23:43 PM PDT by webheart
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To: jedward

Dats de one,,,some great posts there...A “tuff fite” Fo’Sho.


36 posted on 07/14/2007 8:48:23 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

A little synical this evening...I’d trust a well-bribed taliban fighter more than I would a “friendly” ISI agent (lol) (snort)


37 posted on 07/14/2007 8:54:10 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

A little synical this evening...I’d trust a well-bribed taliban fighter more than I would a “friendly” ISI agent (lol) (snort)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“Trust?”,,,After the first magazine !!,,,And after they quit kickin’...;0)


38 posted on 07/14/2007 9:04:47 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Billthedrill
It appears AQ is forced to try to pull whatever used to be aces - or so they thought - out of their sleeves.

Notice they're stirrin the s*** all over these days.

39 posted on 07/14/2007 9:29:48 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Dog

Hmmmmmmmm


40 posted on 07/14/2007 10:37:26 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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