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that Iraq needed to “get everything right” within its first few years.....Is not realistic whatsoever

It is very realistic. It was realistic in insane kamakazi crazed Japan when MacArthur imposed a democratic constitution on Japan. The same should have been done in Iraq, instead our weak President now has our troops dying for a constitution which mandates NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM.

Now THAT is unrealistic, shoot that is plain UNREAL.

Not only that but the Iranians and Syrians have been killing our troops for years and our President has yet to drop one single bomb, not one hand grenade on them.

Not just unreal, unbelievable.

Which is why the GOP is now forcing him out, because he just can not fight this war properly. But we have had this debate before. You are willing to wait and watch for things to get better for us.... and I believe giving the enemy that time will not benefit us.

It is very realistic. It was realistic in insane kamakazi crazed Japan when MacArthur imposed a democratic constitution on Japan.

Japan was a complete different situation. Japan was surrounded by NO ONE. It was not surrounded by tens of millions of faithful believers....By the time MacArthur put such demands on Japan.....Japan was completely cut off from the world. It has no abilities for supply...and MacArthur had NO MSM to enrage and spin the rest of the world.

Two completely different eras and situations.

NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM.

You keep insisting that this is the end all - It isn't - There is plenty happening on the ground in Iraq today that many Muslims feel contradicts Islam (Hell our founders allowed a number of ugly trades and practices to continue when this nation was founded....it took time to reverse those notions)

Again, just as it is unrealistic here in the states to think we are going to deport over 12 million illegals....it is unrealistic over there to think we are going stop Islam overnight or kill all of them.....The answer to both question somewhat has the same underlying....That is create an atmosphere where a type of self-deportation takes place. A self-deportation away from radical Islam (and perhaps Islam itself).

Now, we are in agreement regarding in retrospect, very early on, we should have made it abundantly clear (in no uncertain terms) with a large show of force (air strikes) upon the first even glimpse of interference from the Iranian & Syrian sides of the border. We should have unleashed a segment of hell on either or both those nations....Very early on under the premise that no one will try and influence situations on the ground in Iraq.

I agree.