Can't have it both way, either you are for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and His son Jesus Christ, or you are against him. As a nation, we must choose with whom our full allegiance lies.
We have this thing called the "non-establishment" clause in the first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
If you don't like it, you can try to amend the constitution.
We can look at this as a citizen representative of our country being allowed to express their freedom that is granted to them by the Constitution.
...and I don’t want to hear the argument, well why not wicca or other fringe religions. The fact is that the Hindu religion is a major religion and there are a sizable population of Hindi’s in the country and around the world.
And, you have an inside track on who God reveals Himself to ~ . Do you know about Shiva and Krishna? Betcha’ don’t.
Better said than I did but I meant the same thing. Thanks for a voice of sanity.
I respectfully and most strongly disagree with you.
I may be for the God of Abraham, but that doesn’t mean others must be.
How does respecting someone’s right to believe differently affect my relationship with God?
What about the followers of the God of Abraham who don’t accept Jesus as His son and savior?
As a nation we must NEVER choose a religious belief. That is up to each individual.
You said: “I Am the Lord your God, you shall have NO strange gods before me”.
Can’t have it both way, either you are for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and His son Jesus Christ, or you are against him. As a nation, we must choose with whom our full allegiance lies.
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Allowing someone of another faith to pray, even in public, even in the Senate, is not a betrayal of one’s allegiance to the true God. People say things all the time with which we may disagree. Failing to shut them up is not an adoption of those beliefs. I am a Christian, and I like to think my faith is strong, but I recognize my faith for what it is: Faith. Others have faiths (or lack of them) that differ from mine. I would like to persuade them to adopt my faith, as I am, of course, correct in my faith and they are not (/smug attitude), but I am sure many of them feel just as confident in their faith as I do in mine.
Sorry to disagree with you on this.
I don’t see where the Constitution says we can only accept Christians praying in public.
Hindus aren’t our problem.
The situation differs for Muslims because they are a threat to all of us and want to kill us - which trumps religious freedom IMHO.
"Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
-1st Amendment of the US Constitution
Did you ever wonder why the very first line of the bill of rights ensures that Congress can't establish a state religion?
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
But that is THEIR belief, and they have the exact same right as you to belive in it and practice it in this country. Maybe to them YOUR god is a fairy tale, maybe many of them believe your bible is a book made up by men. Maybe they don’t believe your god exists. That’s also their right. I don’t recall too many Hindus disrupting the opening prayer at the Senate when a Christian was leading it. They have the same right to pray and “preach” as a Christian. Don’t like the message? Politely sit through it and pray to your god, but give them the common courtesy you’d expect during a Christian prayer.
Well, barring that pesky first amendment anyway.
Which article of the Constitution is that in? I can't find it.
I guess this is a sign that America has made a choice.
It is beginning to seem like it is only proper that God’s name will no longer be evoked in a place where He is not wanted. No more hypocrisy. Sad.
Prepare To Leave what? And why?
Amen!
AMEN
On a personal level, this is absolutely true. But remember too that Hindus may not have the same knowledge of Christ that you do, and that they may not be morally culpable for "rejecting" Him, at least explicitly. But if they follow Truth (God) to the best of their abilities, they may be saved, since they would be following Christ implicitly. The Jews, OTOH, could not claim ignorance of God.
As a nation, we must choose with whom our full allegiance lies.
It is practically impossible for a nation to practice absolute religious tolerance, because such a nation would have to tolerate religions that practice absolute religious intolerance, religions such as Mohammedanism.
One way or another, some religious viewpoint will predominate in a society. For our sakes, it had best be the Christian one.
You have completely missed the point of having having freedom of religion and of having Constitutional Republic in stead of a Democracy. It's not about who or what you or I choose to worship (or not worship), regardless if 99.999% are all practitioners and followers of any single faith.
AMEN. You are so right.