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'Hindu Al-Qaeda' training suicide bombers in Nepal(to fight communists,Islamic & Christian zealots)
The Hindustan Times ^ | Kathmandu, June 20, 2007

Posted on 07/12/2007 6:27:43 AM PDT by Gengis Khan

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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
“Your buddy CarrotAndStick thinks terrorism is fine, as long as......”

I am sorry I didn't find any post where he actually said “terrorism is fine” or can be construed as such.

41 posted on 07/12/2007 10:00:46 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

I’ll go on record and predict that most of the “fighting” will be against those scary Christian missionaries rather than the jihadists or the Maoists.

Why go to war against people who will cut your head off when you can beat up a priest and feel just as righteous? Simple human nature.


42 posted on 07/12/2007 11:12:56 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny
I haven't seen them even mention Christian missionaries, but its only your own victim mentality and the nasty chip on your shoulder doing the talking. “Human nature” or not that definitely describes YOUR nature.

Get over it.

43 posted on 07/12/2007 11:19:25 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
“It is well known that all the top Maoist leaders of Nepal are Christian converts.”

Maoist Christian is a contradiction in terms.

Cordially,

44 posted on 07/12/2007 11:51:17 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Gengis Khan

GK, is this consistent with Hindu beliefs? I support any country or religion’s right to defend itself, but I thought Hindus had a policy of non-violence? The whole suicide bomber idea feels very Muslim. Isn’t suicide forbidden in Hinduism?


45 posted on 07/12/2007 12:05:48 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: Gengis Khan
This tiny himalayan kingdom is fighting on many fronts against Maoists, Islamics and Christians Evangelists

Why is there any need to fight peaceful Christian missionaries?

Are they afraid of words?

46 posted on 07/12/2007 12:13:38 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; little jeremiah
“GK, is this consistent with Hindu beliefs?”

I don't think so. Hinduism has no mention of concepts such as suicide bombing, martyrdom or religious crusade . Neither in favour nor against.

I am no expert on Hinduism and I maybe wrong. IMO Hinduism does not abrogates the use of violence but recommends it as the last option. In fact not to resist evil aggressors is considered a greater sin. Maybe LJ can explain better.

47 posted on 07/12/2007 3:10:49 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: wideawake
I don't know what their grouse against Christianity is, the article mentions nothing. And I am not a Nepalese so cant tell you with any certainty. I can only assume they may have had some bad experiences with NLFT like terror groups or maybe they just don't want the foreign Christian missionaries "peaceful" or otherwise. Maybe they just want to hold on to their Hindu Kingdom and Hindu tradition/ethos. If thats what they want then I would respect their decision and not want to mess with them.
48 posted on 07/12/2007 3:30:22 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

Most sane countries in the world realized long time ago that there are two ideologies that cannot allow progress - communism and radical islam.

People havent realized it yet in S.Asia. We got the worst kind of communist supporters in India. But the alternatives to communists arent great either, which is the reason why those elements exist in the first place.


49 posted on 07/12/2007 3:42:12 PM PDT by design engineer
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To: Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick

See I still think the North-East issue is due to their RACIAL isolation. I had one room mate from Manipur, who was a Hindu, but didnt like Indians, especially northies. The language he used was like “N.Indians who belong to caucasian race hate us and look down on us because we are from mongoloid race” or something like that.

I think that makes more sense. Those guys are just using Christianity to distinguish themselves much further from mainstream Hindu India. Just look at Indian Christians in the rest of the country and compare with them. Those guys are a bit different from us, but the extremist elements among them are using christianity as a front to gain sympathy from the west. But their primary grievance is mostly racial rather than religious.

I dont think westerners can understand some of these south asian issues or culture properly. In US and europe, Christianity and Communism are irreconcilable ideologies which are poles apart. In India, most Communists are devoutly religious Hindus, muslims and christians. They apply communist principles only to Economic issues but not to religious or social issues.

I’m sure Titus or JackRyan were judging Indian/S.Asian communists from a Christian perspective.


50 posted on 07/12/2007 4:02:49 PM PDT by design engineer
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To: design engineer

“Most sane countries in the world realized long time ago that there are two ideologies that cannot allow progress - communism and radical islam.”

That is true in case of communism. The world realized the reality about Islam pretty late.

Even if we do have nicer alternatives I wont trust them to take tough decisions. Take for instance the current government of India. Nice ones are very often weak.


51 posted on 07/12/2007 4:17:26 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

what is a Hindu state anyway?


52 posted on 07/12/2007 7:17:32 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: sageb1

You say that like it’s a bad thing. :-)


53 posted on 07/12/2007 7:52:35 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: design engineer

Thye situation in the North-East is NOT racial. It is a war between the converts, the tribals and the Hindus. Ethnically, all are KHASI.


54 posted on 07/12/2007 7:58:12 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: design engineer

You really think there are no Hindus of Mongoloid descent?


55 posted on 07/12/2007 7:59:30 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Gengis Khan

A lot of Christian converts in Nepal(like in other third world countries) are usually the poorest of the poor people(think not your regular poor, but poor in the world’s poorest country poor).

There are a lot of Missionary groups involved that provide free health and education to these people. Many do see Christianity as path to material prosperity... even those not struggling to survive feel that Christianity means material progress.

Excluding the Maoist leaders(most of them are high caste Hindus coming from well to do families), the foot soldiers are all poor people(often significant are Christians or recent Christian converts).

A lot of Christian missionaries from India are Dalit-Nationalists and have quite a radical ethno-religious-racial agenda for Nepal, India and the non-Muslim part of South Asia.


56 posted on 07/12/2007 8:13:34 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Gengis Khan
"We learnt how to make bombs from Prachanda's teaching."

What goes around comes around.

57 posted on 07/12/2007 8:35:55 PM PDT by ARridgerunner (Ron Paul)
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To: Gengis Khan

Tks for the ping.

A pity it had to come to this.

The muzlims have taught the wrong lessons - that aggression pays, that bloodspill and threats buy respect etc.

But when survival itself is threatened, Gandhian principles are useless. Do whatever you have to to survive. You owe nobody any explanations.


58 posted on 07/12/2007 8:46:25 PM PDT by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: sagar
"When the maoist murderers were on the rampage, he was supporting them and how virtuous they were by overthrowing the Hindu “dictator King.”"
 
I was never on the side of the Maoists. If that's what you think then YOU were the "idiot" not me. Your grip is that I wasn't on the side of your maniac dictator so-called "King". And yes I refuse to support your "King". He is neither a  saviour of Nepal nor Hinduism, just another petty dictator on the long list of wannabes scrambling for power.
 
And regardless of you and your cohort's (Talespinners... Tailgunner whatever) claims that its a Maoist insurrection against the (dictator scumbag wannabe) "King", we both know well its simply untrue. The uprising against the King is a popular uprising of the general masses that has nothing to do with the Maoists. I chose to side with the choice with of the Nepalese people not your so-called "King". And IMO India's involvement in Nepal should be restricted to only enabling the formation of a democratic institution and to mediate between the main stream parties.
 
Now what seems to be a "split personality" to you is actually the result of your blinkered vision that you are unable to see anything beyond your deity "King" and the Maoists. I choose neither cuz I am on the side of the "Nepalese people". For you I guess nothing of that kind even exist. Its either your god-King or the Maoists. While I am on the side of the people when they want to remove the King and I am on their side when they want to fight the Maoists.
 
Call them "al Qaeda" or whatever you want but if they want to form a defensive army and fight the Maoists I am all for it. Screw your king.
 
And check what these guys have to say about the King......
 
""We are not funded by the palace," he said. "If the palace had tried to promote Hinduism and Nepal as a Hindu state, we wouldn't have to wage our war. We don't dabble in politics. Our sole aim is to form a Hindu state.""
 
I know what exactly got you pissed about this guy. Your concern isnt really about fighting Maoism. Your concern is that this guys refuses to worship your God-King.

60 posted on 07/13/2007 6:14:59 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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