Posted on 07/12/2007 6:00:27 AM PDT by TexKat
I know what you’re saying. Musharaf has the military capability to “flatten” the area too.
Will 20 years as an expert rifleman in the Marines do?
President Musharraf is our ally, although the people around him are not. That limits how far he can go in helping us fight Al Qaeda. And it is also true that no Pakistani government has been able to govern those provinces.
It is also true that if Musharraf fell, the goverment that replaced him would most likely be much worse, as was the case in China, Cuba, Iran, and Nicaragua.
However, it is time to say to Musharraf, either you clear AQ out of there or we will. Either you get a handle on these provinces or we will go in there ourselves.
But this Administration won’t do that. That would entail standing up to the Dimmycraps, which they don’t have the guts to do, and it would undermine the White House’s no-win strategy.
PS...I’m an R/C pilot as well....
Okay, so Harry Reid is advocating that we invade and/or bomb this part of Pakistan, correct? And I can assume that he would support Bush if/when he decides to do so, right?
Pakistan, A Questionable Friend
Bush needs to attach strings to Pakistan aid - June 24, 2003
“I know what youre saying. Musharaf has the military capability to flatten the area too.”
Both the US and Musharraf have the military capability.
The US is strangled by political correctness, liberals and the media.
Musharraf is constrained by the need to appease Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
By the process of deductive logic, who does that make as partners in an unholy alliance : The Democrats and Al Qaeda. There is actually a book about this by David Horowitz : The Radical Left and Islam; An Unholy Alliance.
Iraq has nothing to do with it you little sniveling beotch! They are in Pakistan!!! And you would do what about it, you little sniveling "need a good ol'fashioned butt kicking" beotch!?
I don't see this as necessarily a bad thing... They went underground after we hit Afghanistan and were hard to find.
Now that we have them on our radar rebuilding. Let them make progress. Let the roaches and AQ bigwigs come out of their holes and feel comfortable. As long as we know where they are we can watch them. When they least expect it and when it will be a to our advantage, hit the area hard.
Supporters of Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf chant slogans as they show their support for government's action against a radical mosque in Hyderabad, 160 km (100 miles) from Karachi July 13, 2007. A leader of an alliance of Pakistani religious parties condemned on Friday an army assault on a radical mosque, which he described as the darkest chapter in the country's history, and called for protests. The banner reads " we salute Pakistani security forces". REUTERS/Akram Shahid (PAKISTAN)
Angry protesters raise hands to show their solidarity with militants who were killed by government forces in Islamabad's Red mosque, Friday, July 13, 2007 in Peshawar, Pakistan. Protests were staged in all of Pakistan's major cities Friday over a government assault that left more than 100 dead at a mosque in the capital as security was tightened to foil possible revenge attacks, official said. (AP Photo/Mohammad Zubair)
Activists of opposition Islamic alliance Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) burn an effigy of President Pervez Musharraf in Quetta July 13, 2007. A leader of an alliance of Pakistani religious parties condemned on Friday an army assault on a radical mosque, which he described as the darkest chapter in the country's history, and called for protests. REUTERS/Rizwan Saeed (PAKISTAN)
Pakistani Lawyers offer prayers in Karachi for those who killed in a government's assault on Islamabad's Lal Masjid or Red Mosque July 13, 2007. A leader of an alliance of Pakistani religious parties condemned on Friday an army assault on the Lal Masjid or Red Mosque, which he described as the darkest chapter in the country's history, and called for protests. REUTERS/Zahid Hussein (PAKISTAN)
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf addresses the nation in Islamabad July 12, 2007. Grieving relatives and villagers buried a rebel Pakistani cleric on Thursday, but almost 70 followers killed with him when troops stormed an Islamabad mosque were interred without ceremony in unmarked graves. REUTERS/Press Information Department/Handout
Azhar Masood, Arab News
ISLAMABAD, 13 July 2007 Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf yesterday regretted the loss of lives in the battle against extremists in the capitals Red Mosque and the adjoining Madrasa Hafsa, but warned that such revolts anywhere in the country will be crushed.
The president was addressing the nation on state-run television and radio hours after some 650 kilometers away villagers of Basti Abdullah buried rebel cleric Abdul Rashid Ghazi with calls for jihad. Authorities allowed Abdul Rashids brother, Abdul Aziz, who was captured while trying to escape from the mosque wearing a burqa, to lead the funeral prayer.
In his speech, Musharraf said the raid on the Red Mosque was inevitable because it was a center for extremism. I am sad over the loss of lives in the operation but it became inevitable for Pakistan, he said.
Musharraf said the mosque and the adjoining madrasa had been freed from the hands of terrorists.
He also urged the thousands of madrasas in the country to preach moderation. I ask the people who run these schools, the religious scholars, I appeal to them to please teach the true values of Islam, he said. I pray that may Allah save Pakistan from terrorists and extremists and their evils and put us on the road to moderation.
Musharraf paid tribute to the troops and security forces who took part in the raid and the eight-day siege, adding: I salute them for what they did for our beloved country.
The president said paramilitary forces would be strengthened with more tanks and armored carriers in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan in the next six months to root out terrorism.
Journalists were shown a blackened room in Madrasa Hafsa where an army spokesman said a suicide bomber died along with a half-dozen victims whose bodies were so badly burned it was impossible to tell their age or gender.
Ghazi was killed Tuesday along with a handful of hardcore militants he had gathered around him in his drive to impose strict Islamic rule on the capital. His elder brother Abdul Aziz led the prayers before Ghazis body was buried at their ancestral village in the eastern province of Punjab.
Mourners smashed the coffins glass lid and tore a white cloth from the corpses face to see if it was really that of the 43-year-old cleric. There were chants of Al-Jihad, Al-Jihad as prayers were read for Ghazi. In contrast to the graveside scenes in Punjab, the burials of scores of Ghazis supporters took place before daybreak at a cemetery in Islamabad. No relatives were present.
A cleric read verses from the Quran, although full funeral rites were not observed, according to a Reuters photographer present. There were no names on the coffins, only number codes.
All the victims have been fingerprinted and photographed and their DNA test has been taken to help parents and relatives identity them, then the bodies will be handed over, said Rana Akbar Hayat, a senior city administrator supervising the burials.
Meanwhile, parents and relatives frantically searched hospitals, hoping to find missing children. I have searched almost every hospital in the city, sobbed Noor Mohammad from Pakistans North Waziristan tribal region, whose 13-year-old son Mirza Alam was in the mosque.
Should we repeat the mistake made in Pakistan and withdraw from IRAQ and allow AL-Queda another SAFE HAVEN?
It helps those with an AGENDA.....
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There is a book (now available in paperback ):
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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz
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And reviews:
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Editorial Reviews
Rich Lowry, Editor National Review
David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
Davis Hanson, Author, Ripples of Battle
An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
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See all Editorial Reviews
Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006
Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews
A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.
The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,
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You got it - That is what is so mindbogglingly.....Just how non-serious the DEMs/MSM are regarding this WOT (which 100% includes Iraq - Iraq is essential to it).
The notion that we should leave Iraq as a safe-haven for AQ is mind-numbing in how stupid such thoughts are.
The Jihadists over played their hands within the red mosque and the recent attack on Musharaff. The ANA in Stan is much stronger, which is freeing up more and more of our resources on the ground in Stan....To support hunting elsewhere in the region....
Defeat in Iraq means VICTORY in Washington....
See #35!
They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven in the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan ...
These are the kind of places where Al Qaeda has settled, the dark disconneted places, Sudan, Northern Malaysia, Finsbury Park...etc.. That’s why we need to “Shrink the gap” to quote Thomas P M Barnett.
Senate Majority leader Harry Reid said in a statement that he......plans to figure out a way to sell some land to his al-Qaeda buddies and avoid paying taxes. Thanks E.
the Government Accountability Office... released a report Wednesday that showed how easy it was to obtain official licenses to buy and handle radioactive materials needed to build a so-called dirty bombSo, who holds the Accountability Office accountable for releasing such damaging information?
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