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LOL, the terrorist said "Islamaphobe".

Tolerate CAIR, JOOOOOOOOOO lovers, or they'll kill you!

1 posted on 07/04/2007 2:40:47 PM PDT by Baladas
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2 posted on 07/04/2007 2:42:12 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Baladas

Every Muslim should be suspect.


3 posted on 07/04/2007 2:43:22 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last.”)
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"But guys like [Cal] Thomas come along and want to say every Muslim should be suspect and should be treated in a certain way.

It's called profiling and should have been implemented a long time ago.
4 posted on 07/04/2007 2:44:23 PM PDT by Man50D (Wrong kind of fierw)
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To: Baladas

Maybe ,just maybe the next logical step IS the expulsion of the the Muslims in America.If an incident like the Beslin school slaughter happens here,most Muslims will be hard pressed to escape with their lives.


5 posted on 07/04/2007 2:44:38 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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To: Baladas

Not only should we stop allowing Mooselimbs in, we should eject the ones that are already here.


6 posted on 07/04/2007 2:44:53 PM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: Baladas

I think we should embrace Diversity. Diversity makes us stronger. That’s why I am thrilled that some folks in the media are not drinking the kool-aid and actually have the courage to state the obvious: Islam is a source of evil in our world. That’s an uncommon viewpoint — but all views have value. Don’t cha know.


7 posted on 07/04/2007 2:45:03 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: Baladas

Videoes are the best way to undestand this sad reality...

Investigation INSIDE a british mosque :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA

OTHER VIDEO

Muslims openly calling for murders of British and American people in the streets of... London...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs&eurl=

How do you reach these people?

http://leblogdrzz.over-blog.com/article-11136984.html

VIDEO : how works the islamic brainwashing of children :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2QhQQpHck

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwoGtHAG8IQ&mode=related&search=


8 posted on 07/04/2007 2:45:17 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Boycott China-They murdered my dog.....)
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Hooper said CAIR focuses on educational campaigns and "things that really explain who Islam is all about so that they don't have to take their misinformation from Islamaphobes like Cal Thomas."

The following article reveals waht Islam si all about.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims

NewsMax.com Wires

Thursday, June 20, 2002

WASHINGTON – A leader of the small worldwide Muslim reform movement is warning the West against wishful thinking as the U.S. government promotes an intensive dialogue with Islam.

"The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other," Bassam Tibi said Tuesday in an interview with United Press International.

Syrian-born Tibi, who claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammed and teaches political science at Goettingen University in Germany, appealed for intellectual honesty in these exchanges.

This Is 'Peace'?

"First, both sides should acknowledge candidly that although they might use identical terms these mean different things to each of them. The word 'peace,' for example, implies to a Muslim the extension of the Dar al-Islam – or 'House of Islam' – to the entire world," explained Tibi, who is also a research scholar at Harvard University.

"This is completely different from the Enlightenment concept of eternal peace that dominates Western thought, a concept developed by Immanuel Kant," an 18th-century philosopher.

This Is 'Tolerance'?

"Similarly, when Muslims and the Western heirs of the Enlightenment speak of tolerance they have different things in mind. In Islamic terminology, this term implies abiding non-Islamic monotheists, such as Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians, as second-class believers. They are 'dhimmi,' a protected but politically immature minority."

According to Tibi, the quest of converting the entire world to Islam is an immutable fixture of the Muslim worldview. Only if this task is accomplished, if the world has become a "Dar al-Islam," will it also be a "Dar a-Salam," or a house of peace.

Tibi appealed to his co-religionists to "revise their understanding of peace and tolerance by accepting pluralism." Furthermore, he said, Muslim leaders should give up the notion of Jihad in the sense of conquest, as opposed to Jihad as an internal struggle of the individual.

Liberal Mush

Tibi's advice comes at a time when the U.S. government is urging American Muslim leaders to promote understanding for the United States in Islamic regions. To Tibi, this is more of a diplomatic endeavor than the promotion of a more profound theological understanding between Islam and the Judeo-Christian worldview prevalent in the West.

But Muzammil Siddiqi, one senior Islamic scholar the State Department consults with, told UPI he found that his efforts in furthering contacts between Muslim, Christian and Jewish theologians were having some success.

Indian-born Siddiqi is the director of the large Islamic Center of Orange County in California. In consultation with the State Department and in cooperation with the University of Kentucky, he traveled back and forth between the United States and the Middle East trying to convince Muslim theologians and jurists to meet with American church leaders.

"I have found that many, though not all, were ready to welcome visitors from America and also to come here to explore with Christians and Jews what we have in common," Siddiqi said.

Though Siddiqi's center is heavily engaged in interfaith activities, he made it clear that to him, as indeed for conservative Christians, syncretism – the mixing of religions – was anathema.

Common values should be sought out, he explained, and the equality of all believers respected, be they Muslims, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists. But the purity of the faith must not be compromised.

In an article in the prestigious Hamburg weekly Die Zeit, Tibi gave anecdotal evidence of how daunting a task this dialogue with Islam can be.

Staring in Horror at the Bible

The bishop of Hildesheim in Germany paid an imam a courtesy visit in his mosque. The imam handed the Catholic prelate a Koran, which he joyfully accepted. But when the bishop tried to present the imam with a Bible, the Muslim cleric just stared at him in horror and refused to even touch Christianity's holy book.

"The bishop was irritated because he perceived this behavior as a gross discourtesy," wrote Tibi, "but the imam had only acted according to his faith. For if an imam gives a bishop a Koran, he considers this a Da'Wa, or call to Islam."

This, explained Tibi, must be borne in mind when one engages in a dialogue with Muslim "scholars," for it corresponds to a verse in the Koran: "And say ... to those who are unlearned: 'Do ye submit yourselves?'" (Surah 3:20).
10 posted on 07/04/2007 2:49:25 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Baladas

Screw CAIR and Ibrahim Hooper.


13 posted on 07/04/2007 2:51:53 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Baladas
"For him, I would imagine that his next step is the expulsion of the Muslim-American community," Hooper said. "We condemn extremism. We've condemned terrorism....We've issued dozens of condemnations on dozens of terrorism attacks."

Well, since it has now be revealed that CAIR could hold it's annual convention in a phone booth, with room to spare, the relevant question is what the fat cats who fund their multi-million dollar budget feel about terrorism and extremism.

I would assume that the people who fund CAIR do not condemn terrorism and extremism at all, but find it useful to have somebody to put a "smiley face" on the Jihad.

14 posted on 07/04/2007 2:52:44 PM PDT by gridlock (Quack ... (thump) Quack ... (thump) Quack ... (thump) Quack ... (thump)......)
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To: Baladas
From the website "Ask the Imam."

To become a citizen of US one has to take an oath of allegiance. is it ok to take the oath?

The oath of allegiance is as follows: I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. They also ask on the citizenship form the following questions: If the law requires it, are you willing to bear arms on behalf of US? If the law requires it, are you willing to perform noncombatant service in the US Armed Forces? If the law requires it, are you willing to perform work of national importance under civilian direction? My question is can we answer yes to these questions? is there anything wrong in doing that. what should the answer be: yes or no? could you please kindly give an urgent answer. jazakallah. Answer 8471 2003-04-25

As Muslims, we are duty bound to follow our lives strictly according to Shari’ah. Whatever Shari’ah allows us to do, we will abide by that and whatever Shari’ah has restricted us from, we will refrain from it. Hence, we are not allowed to obey anybody if it is resulting in the disobedience of the Creator, Allah. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘There is no obedience for the creation by disobeying the Creator.’ (Mirqaat vol.7 pg.217; Imdadiyyah).

Hence, keeping this in mind if one is forced to sign the above in order to become a citizen or the only way of attaining citizenship is by acknowledging the above, then one may sign it with the intention that Shari’ah and Deen will always be his yardstick and that he will never sacrifice any of the teachings of Deen.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

I have always been a tolerant person -- not anymore.
17 posted on 07/04/2007 2:54:22 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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They have made “dozens” of condemnations? When? I have heard VERY LITTLE out of them. Even if they had, one need only go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ and see the latest tally to see that “dozens” of condemnations should be “Thousands” and actions speak louder than words.


18 posted on 07/04/2007 2:56:32 PM PDT by Blogger
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I love Cal Thomas’s response to these guys.


20 posted on 07/04/2007 2:59:17 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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>"Hooper said CAIR focuses on educational campaigns and "things that really explain who Islam is all about "

Go peddle your shiite somewhere else Eebee, try he77, it's your "religions" place of origin!

Sura 9:5 of the “Koran,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

What kinda gawd commands his slaves to do such things??? You betcha!! It's satanallah!

Ban the queeran! It trully is hate speech!

21 posted on 07/04/2007 2:59:52 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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ping...


22 posted on 07/04/2007 3:03:45 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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CAIR is evil.


23 posted on 07/04/2007 3:07:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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“Okay, lets have the required disclaimer: Not all Muslims from the Middle East and southeast Asia want to kill us,

I say it should be up-to the believers of Islam to prove they are not blood thirty terrorist.Until they satisfye me I say ban them from residing or visiting the U.S. or any Western country.

The western Democracy’s are not compatible and vice versa.

25 posted on 07/04/2007 3:08:07 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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“But guys like [Cal] Thomas come along and want to say every Muslim should be suspect and should be treated in a certain way. That’s not just and that’s not the American way,” Hooper said.

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Guys like Hooper and organisations like CAIR are using the “American way” to destroy the American way.


26 posted on 07/04/2007 3:10:32 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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CAIR refresh my memory...where is the part in the Koran that instructs Muslims to make the distinction between “Good Jews” and “Bad Jews” ?

...was that also the part that makes the distinction on the treatment of infidels depending or not on their “repudiation” of their faith as the only excuse for not being killed?

CAIR is full of camel sh#t.

27 posted on 07/04/2007 3:10:34 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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Cal Thomas is correct to make these remarks, though I'm surprised that he did. Fatwah comin' at ya, Cal. But now that "PC" is off the table, let's honestly answer a couple of short essay questions.

First, what value has islam brought to the world in the last hundreds of years? In other words, what contributions has islam given us that elevate humans and advance humanity?

Second, what has islam cost the world in terms of human lives lost, capital resources spent and intellectual energies used up fighting islam's inherently violent nature and its innate desire to conquer and control the world?

Answering these two questions should help intellectually honest and rational humans, regardless of their faith, assess the costs vs benefits of islam. Because, sooner or later, our world will have to decide whether or not it would be better off if there is no islam or there is only islam.

Given islam's nature in its current and historical form, as long as there is islam, there will always be violence, mayhem and death. Even if the world was totally governed by sharia law, this would not change. Muslims kill anyone and everyone, but mostly other muslims. Islam is a warrior cult where allah sanctions killing.

Unless islam reforms itself and conforms to the 21st century and beyond, the world, perhaps country by country, must answer the "islam or no islam?" question. It isn't going away and unfortunately it isn't reforming itself. A look at history will confirm that islam is growing larger and more violent while seeking more destructive weapons to use against us. Thank you, Jimmy Carter for this latest chapter.

28 posted on 07/04/2007 3:11:47 PM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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