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German Pastor Sentenced to a Year in Jail for Comparing Abortion to the Nazi Holocuast
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 6/26/07 | Elizabeth O'Brien/John Henry Westen

Posted on 06/27/2007 6:59:53 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: To Hell With Poverty

Similarly, Sen. Diane Feinstein (according to Rabbi Lapin) isn’t really Jewish. She just has a Jewish married name.


61 posted on 06/27/2007 2:44:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Mah tovu 'ohaleykha, Ya`aqov, mishkenoteykha, Yisra'el!")
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To: Nextrush

A German judge also said you can beat your wife because the koran says so.


62 posted on 06/27/2007 4:07:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Nextrush

Wir haben nichts genug Lebensraum!


63 posted on 06/27/2007 4:13:54 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: investigateworld; cpforlife.org; Cletus.D.Yokel; NYer; wideawake
I am an American of German descent. What happened in WWI and II disgusted my family here. The society went nuts. Totally insane. In many ways, there is some vestiges of that madness still inside Europe today. Many German’s, who went through WWII, have no desire to confront what happened. Many still blame “the Allies” for the partition of Germany and don’t believe the Holocaust was anything out of the ordinary for the time. Read “Tiger’s in the Mud”, an account of a German tank commander. The author had many foul words about the US and British troops (he was mad that they would send in dive bombers rather than Sherman tanks to die under his 88mm), but rather little about the Nazi’s. Also, Bonhoffer, a personal hero of mine, is often viewed as a traitor. Not because he thought Hitler was evil (many at the time did) but because he actually tried to do something about it.

But before you start scorning them, take a close look at our own nation. We allow the slaughter and vivisection of millions of unborn children, and then ship the body parts off for study. Of course many are “against abortion personally”, but won’t do a dang thing to protest or fight the culture of death. We are in many ways, the same as those Germans in 1938. Yes, many know things are bad, and that the State is not working according to any sort of moral code, but most don’t really give a s#%t. Many care, but few really want to do anything. It is so easy to just go about our life, and pretend that someone else will take care of it. Just ignore it and go back to sleep. That is what happened to the German people in World War I and II. They went back to sleep, and awake to find themselves chained to an antichrist.

I had a nightmare once. I was before God, at the day of Judgment, and I realized that all the sins of others that I had condemned them for were the same ones I have grown very comfortable with myself. We need to remember that. Remember that because of the Fall we all have the stain of sin on our souls. We all have the capability to become the monsters of the Nazi era. In fact, this country is well on its way to doing just that.

64 posted on 06/27/2007 4:36:04 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
All wise words. My now deceased FIL, who served on the Eastern Front and in North Africa also held a strong suspicions that the ‘blood lust’ was part of the make up.
And he held Germany to a higher standard due to the overall intelligence level they have. He was one happy camper when he went into the Brit’s bag.

And Yes, there is an SS man within the heart of many of the American left. Went drinking with more than a few of them during my union PAC committee days.

Really surprised no one has made mention of my comments about Canada?

65 posted on 06/27/2007 4:46:24 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: investigateworld
Really surprised no one has made mention of my comments about Canada?

Heh, I thought about it.

66 posted on 06/27/2007 8:10:06 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (For evil to win, it is only necessary for Jimmy Carter to be considered a role model.)
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To: Nextrush

Comparison of the abortion holocaust to the Shoah is a grand way to make leftists froth at the mouth: next time embryonic stem cell research comes up, compare it with the research of Joseph Mengle (which after all, did produce still-useful medical data about hypothermia), pointing out the common element of denying the humanity of the subjects.

The full article has mailto links for a lot of German officials. I’m trying to formulate an adequately outraged, but rhetorically measured, response to send them.


67 posted on 06/27/2007 8:37:42 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: investigateworld
Really surprised no one has made mention of my comments about Canada?

Google "Bruno Dorfer" "Rainer Beck".

Dorfer and Beck were two deserters from the German navy, who were captured by the Dutch Resistance and handed over to the Canadians, who stuck them in a POW camp.

It seems the Allies had been allowing the Krauts to run their own little judicial system within the POW camps. When the top-ranking Kraut POW found out Dorfer and Beck were deserters, he asked for and received permission to court-martial them. So, they were tried and convicted by a German military court made up of POWs. Then the Canadians allowed the POWs to borrow rifles to carry out the executions under Canadian supervision. Five days after Germany had surrendered.

68 posted on 06/27/2007 8:55:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Gotcha...

After I retired I worked for a PI/Research firm. One of the principals had inherited the "opposition file" on Eisenhower.

They were going to hang this baby around his neck, as we had dumped unmpteen millions of safe conduct passes on German positions, each with a facsimile of Ike's signature. But the surveys showed the public made no connection between him and Brit/Commonwealth forces. My granddaughter and I will be writing a play about this.

How did you find it? (and my compliments for your knowledge)

69 posted on 06/27/2007 9:03:36 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
Yes, the mob has shown itself and the re-elections of very anti-Sacramental Catholics reveals the nature of the crowd.

The last bit of “Boston American fake” had nothing to do with Kerry, but more to do with a crowd that enjoys a sobbing cry over suffering they never received. I believe the demonic spirit that influences such a fall from Grace is called “despair” and is spurned on with “pride” and “rage”.

70 posted on 06/27/2007 10:57:42 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: Nextrush

Has the whole world gone insane?!!!


71 posted on 06/27/2007 11:03:35 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Nextrush

I just got sn email from Lifesite and they said this story is false, that he was in fact jailed for holocaust denial, and they had bad info.

Ed


72 posted on 06/28/2007 12:15:58 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Nextrush

The real Holocaust deniers are the ones who think there is no comparison between the targeted killing of a specific group of people on a massive scale, and what happened in the Nazi concentration camps.

“Never again” didn’t last very long, did it?


73 posted on 06/28/2007 12:38:00 AM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: investigateworld
How did you find it? (and my compliments for your knowledge)

Thanks, and it's fortunate the attempt to swift-boat Ike with this failed.

I just googled "Canada returned German deserters". That lead to a Wikipedia article on the Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, the army regiment which had been in charge of the POW camp. That article mentioned the names Beck and "Dofor", a mispelling obvious to anyone with a passing familiarity with German names. After that, googling Beck Dorfer got to the rest.

One of the Google results is a page in a book on the Hitler youth, one of the thousands of books Google has been scanning in.

Good luck with your play. If you look through the Google output, you will see that there exists at least one dramatization based on this event already.

75 posted on 06/28/2007 9:45:10 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Nextrush

Germany is trying to eliminate itself and become a totalitarian middle-eastern death cult.


76 posted on 06/28/2007 9:48:43 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: cynwoody
Thanks, our approach is the irony; One of the guys who was executed was half Jewish and in fact his mother was saved from a death camp by a German police officer who disobeyed his orders.

We are kind of stuck on the ending. I'm tempted to just have a screen drop and have a chorus in Mountie uniform singing "He's a gay factory worker from the South...". Rodney Carrington's hit single ;^)

(And per the file, Ike never was intimate with Kay Summersby.)

77 posted on 06/28/2007 10:00:31 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Nextrush

I am a Jew who has p*ssed off many of my own people (mostly secular ones)by making that comparison, but if you believe unborn life is equal in value to born life, what other conclusion can one come to?


78 posted on 06/28/2007 1:24:37 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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