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To: goldstategop
Our condition isn't as great as we'd like to believe. Yes, all of what he wrote takes place every day of the year in America.

LOL! And just where does the author of this piece think is a better, more "freer" place to live? Libertarian rabble is always about not being "FREE" enough, which usual means not being able to smoke dope anytime they want so they can get stoned outta their minds!

We are "Free" as one can get without complete anarchy taking hold!

9 posted on 06/24/2007 6:56:11 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth
That's a caricature of libertarian thought. They are classical liberals who want the government to stay out of their business and out of their personal lives. So yes, they tend to think smoking marijuana, having an abortion and owning a gun ought to be decisions left up to the individual. Freedom means being being able to pursue activities of which others might disapprove. That's different from collectivist philosophies which all believe you ought to do what they tell you to do. That doesn't sit well with many people in the Western United States who are by no means social conservatives but still believe in true freedom.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 06/24/2007 7:02:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sirchtruth
We are "Free" as one can get without complete anarchy taking hold!

Do you mean that you cannot imagine one law that we could repeal, without complete anarchy taking hold?

12 posted on 06/24/2007 7:05:04 AM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: sirchtruth

We are "Free" as one can get without complete anarchy taking hold!

Huh?? If that were true then it must have been "complete anarchy" from the time of Washington up until today. Do you really think our nation was in a state of "complete anarchy" in the time of Jefferson, or Roosevelt or even Eisenhower?

Instead of moving towards a big government nanny state with ever less freedom we should be trying to cultivate the culture of personal responsibility and freedom that leads to less government. You might consider this some kind of crazy libertarian idea but it was the key to Ronald Reagan's electoral victory. We could use a resurgence of his ideas among our candidates today.

23 posted on 06/24/2007 9:53:01 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: sirchtruth
And just where does the author of this piece think is a better, more "freer" place to live?

Estonia (former Soviet Republic) is currently the most free place to live.

51 posted on 06/24/2007 5:40:45 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: sirchtruth
We are "Free" as one can get without complete anarchy taking hold!.

You say that like it is a bad thing.

A little anarchy is in order on occasion.

We are rapidly approaching such an occasion.

52 posted on 06/24/2007 5:43:08 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: sirchtruth
We are "Free" as one can get without complete anarchy taking hold!

Are you cool with gun laws as they currently stand?

60 posted on 06/25/2007 7:24:56 AM PDT by jmc813 (If you'd be interested in a potential Big Brother (TV show) ping list, FRMail me.)
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To: sirchtruth

I’d rather be in the biggest lifeboat following a shipwreck myself; but it would be preferable not to have had the boat sink.


64 posted on 06/25/2007 9:05:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: sirchtruth

“If he gets up, we’ll all get up, it’ll be anarchy!” - Breakfast Club

Seriously, though. If the government didn’t try to alleviate all the consequences for bad choices, we could freely allow those bad choices to occur, since the consequences would incentivize future deciders to make better decisions.


66 posted on 06/25/2007 9:09:06 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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