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Romney: Attacks On Mormon Religion Troubling
CBS 4 MIAMI ^ | 23 JUNE 2007 | AP

Posted on 06/23/2007 1:28:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

(AP) SALT LAKE CITY -- Mitt Romney said Saturday that criticism of his Mormon religion by rival GOP presidential campaigns is happening too frequently.

“Clearly, any derogatory comments about anyone’s faith—those comments are troubling. The fact they keep on coming up is even more troubling,” Romney said during a fundraising trip in the home state of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

The Mormon church is one of the fastest-growing religions and claims about 12.5 million members worldwide. But many evangelical Christians in crucial primary states such as Iowa and South Carolina consider the faith a cult.

Romney’s remarks follow an apology from GOP rival John McCain’s campaign for comments about the Mormon church allegedly made this year by a volunteer.

Also recently, Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, issued a similar apology for a campaign worker’s e-mail to Iowa Republican leaders that was an apparent attempt to draw unfavorable scrutiny of Romney’s religion. Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani apologized after the New York Sun noted that a campaign aide had forwarded to a blogger a story about unofficial Mormon lore. Legend has it that a Mormon would save the Constitution, the story said. The campaign aide passed the story along with a note: “Thought you’d find this interesting.”

Romney said in a large presidential race there always will be some volunteers or workers who cannot be controlled. But he said the difference between derogatory comments that originated from the McCain campaign and others is that the Arizona senator has not personally apologized to him.

“In the case of Senator Brownback and Mayor Giuliani ... they called immediately. They each spoke with me personally. I don’t have any issue with that at all,” Romney said.

He said McCain “can do whatever he feels is the right thing. There’s no need for me to suggest how people respond to things that go on in the campaign.”

Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, said the McCain campaign has already apologized.

“It’s a very sincere apology. There is absolutely no place for those type of comments in our campaign,” he said.

Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, said he had not spoken with McCain since the last presidential debate, on June 5.

Romney used a fundraiser hosted by Utah Jazz owner Larry Miller to criticize the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law. It banned unregulated, unlimited contributions from corporations, unions and wealthy individuals to national political parties and federal candidates.

“The bill ought to be repealed,” he said. “It’s been the wrong course for American campaigns.”

Romney said he favors unlimited donations as long as they are immediately disclosed on the Internet.

Romney was attending fundraisers in Salt Lake City and in Logan on Saturday.


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To: colorcountry

I’ve been to San Jose once...


921 posted on 06/28/2007 6:11:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“Great humanitarian works were performed by the Church and its members in connection with the souteast Asia tsuami, the earthquakes in Afghanistan and El Salvador and the hurricane in New Orleans.”

“So did the Shriners!”

... another Masonic Temple group...


922 posted on 06/28/2007 6:13:40 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: tantiboh
We can see from several verses in the New Testament that the ordinance is necessary, and commanded us by God. Here are a handful:
Mark 16:16
John 3:5
Acts 2:38

 

You should have kept going...

 

Acts 15:5-33
 5.  Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses."
 6.  The apostles and elders met to consider this question.
 7.  After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.
 8.  God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
 9.  He made no distinction between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.
 10.  Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?
 11.  No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."
 12.  The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the miraculous signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them.
 13.  When they finished, James spoke up: "Brothers, listen to me.
 14.  Simon  has described to us how God at first showed his concern by taking from the Gentiles a people for himself.
 15.  The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
 16.  "`After this I will return and rebuild David's fallen tent. Its ruins I will rebuild, and I will restore it,
 17.  that the remnant of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who bear my name, says the Lord, who does these things'
 18.  that have been known for ages.
 19.  "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.
 20.  Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.
 21.  For Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."
 22.  Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, two men who were leaders among the brothers.
 23.  With them they sent the following letter: The apostles and elders, your brothers, To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings.
 24.  We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said.
 25.  So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul--
 26.  men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 27.  Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing.
 28.  It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:
 29.  You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.
 30.  The men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter.
 31.  The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message.
 32.  Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the brothers.
 33.  After spending some time there, they were sent off by the brothers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them.

 

PostScript:

WAIT!!!  We forgot to add: YOU NEED TO BE BAPTISED!!!

923 posted on 06/28/2007 6:16:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
Ah, Colorado Springs, I presume.

Uh... that's a bit south to be A 'SUBURB' ;^)

Aurora - Larson AirBase

924 posted on 06/28/2007 6:18:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
Too bad it’s swinging left so fast and hard.

It's all them Californicators; fleeing the wrath to come, bringing their baggage with them!

925 posted on 06/28/2007 6:19:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
Genetic connections, particularly after a few thousand years of mixing and mingling, tend to get a bit muddled.

This ain't gonna fly on the C vs E threads!!! ;^)

926 posted on 06/28/2007 6:20:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
Of course, that doesn’t mean I’m going to go about trying my darndest to destroy their faith.

But... but... you've GOT to!

Or they'll NEVER see the light and get saved!

927 posted on 06/28/2007 6:21:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
For the sake of retaining a remission of your sins from day to day, that ye may walk guiltless before God—I would that ye should impart of your substance to the poor, every man according to that which he hath, such as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and administering to their relief, both spiritually and temporally, according to their wants.

You'd think it'd be in according with their NEEDS!!!

928 posted on 06/28/2007 6:23:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
...the evidences against the LDS Church are specious at best.

The mineral handwavium (similar to unobtainium), has shown, through thorough testing, the imbalance of speciousity to factuality in many of these cases.

929 posted on 06/28/2007 6:28:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I thought this thread would get about 100-200 replies, but not like this.

It appears, EEE, that you are an Ardent American Agitator!

930 posted on 06/28/2007 6:30:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
We are a very dedicated group of hard-heads.

And, apparently, we have no other lives!! ;^)

931 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh
You must have missed the MOATs (Mothers-of-All-Threads) we engaged in a few months ago.

I have a MOAB sticker on the back of my van!

932 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Are you actually defending Joseph Smith and the articles of faith?

Is this a CREED???

933 posted on 06/28/2007 6:35:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
I’ve seen a few with small text, but I haven’t been able to do that myself. Any ideas?

You might try to Copy&paste it into e-mail, then click the SOURCE tab to see the code.

934 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
...was signed off on by a professor of ancient languages...

What does SIGNED OFF mean?

WHO is this 'professor'?

935 posted on 06/28/2007 6:41:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN; sevenbak
I’m afraid I cannot agree, sevenbak.

And here's why...

Revelation 5
 1.  And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
 2.  And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
 3.  And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
 4.  And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
 5.  And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

936 posted on 06/28/2007 6:43:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

2 hours gone, fussin’ with folks.

No WONDER the other half says I’m addicted to this compouter!

(I probably qualify for SOME kind of Gummint assistance!)

Bye ‘til later...


937 posted on 06/28/2007 6:49:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Osage Orange

Sure do. I always vote, so I can always voice my own opinion. I was kind of speaking tongue in cheek.

And if someone else has an opinion about a candidate or a president that they don’t like, fine. However if they don’t vote, sorry, I count their comments as a bit less. We have the opportunity to vote for our leaders. Is the process corrupt? Yes at times. But I am not going to sit on my hands if I don’t like the Republican candidate. I wasn’t all that enthralled with Bob Dole, and I remember trudging to the polls to vote. I know many think Dole was a RINO, but you know what, he would have been a lot better president than Bill Clinton.

So when it comes time to vote in 2008, I will vote for the Republican candidate, whoever it is. Well, maybe not Chuch Hagel. I just hope the Republican party can give us a candidate who we can vote for, instead of having the choice to just vote against Hillary!.


938 posted on 06/28/2007 7:47:10 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Elsie

Placemarker


939 posted on 06/28/2007 8:13:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: greyfoxx39
Great Society of Invisible Placeholder Markers™
 
Member in good standing since 12-5-2000

940 posted on 06/28/2007 8:53:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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