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Putin: Vietnam worse than Stalin purges
AP ^ | June 21, 2007 | DOUGLAS BIRCH

Posted on 06/21/2007 4:11:05 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

MOSCOW — President Vladimir Putin said Thursday no one should try to make Russia feel guilty about the Great Purge of 1937, saying it may have been one of the most notorious episodes of the Stalin era but "in other countries even worse things happened."

Speaking at a televised meeting with social studies teachers, Putin noted that this is the 70th anniversary of a year many Russians regard as a synonym for state-sponsored terror. It is an anniversary that has, however, gotten relatively little attention in Russian media.

"Yes, we had terrible pages" in Russia's history, Putin said. "Let us recall the events since 1937, let us not forget that. But in other countries, it has been said, it was more terrible."

Russia should never forget the abuses of the Communist era, Putin said. But he also said no one had the right to make Russia feel guilty about those abuses.

"No one must be allowed to impose the feeling of guilt on us," he said. "Let them think about themselves. But we must not and will not forget about the grim chapters in our history."

Political arrests on dubious charges were common throughout Soviet dictator Josef Stalin's rule, resulting in the execution of hundreds of thousands of Russians. Millions more became inmates of the gulag, the Soviet system of thousands of slave labor camps.

Large-scale arrests of Communist Party members began in 1934 and seemed to reach a crescendo in 1936-37, when a series of show trials was held in Moscow featuring dramatic courtroom confessions.

Thousands of bureaucrats, military officers and party officials were rounded up and imprisoned by the NKVD, one of the predecessor agencies to the KGB. Many were shot after secret trials.

Russia has never sought to bring to justice KGB officials implicated in human rights abuses committed during the Communist era. Putin, a proud alumnus of the KGB, headed its main successor organization, the Federal Security Service, in the late 1990s.

Speaking with the teachers, Putin suggested the United States' use of atomic weapons against Japan at the end of World War II was worse than the abuses of Stalin. He also cited the U.S. bombing campaign and use the defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War.

"We have not used nuclear weapons against a civilian population," he said. "We have not sprayed thousands of kilometers (miles) with chemicals, (or) dropped on a small country seven times more bombs than in all the Great Patriotic (War)" — Russia's name for World War II.

"We had no other black pages, such as Nazism, for instance," he said.

His remarks came just over a week after President Bush unveiled a monument to the victims of communism in Washington. At the ceremony, Bush compared those totalitarian regimes to modern terror groups.

Putin said he regretted some of Russia's history textbooks had been written using grants from foreign groups, implying foreign governments were dictating how Russian history should be told. Textbook authors "dance to the polka that others have paid for," he said.

In recent years, the Kremlin has cracked down on the operations of foreign non-governmental organizations, saying some were pursuing political agendas.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: communism; purges; putin; reeducation; russia; stalin; vietnam
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1 posted on 06/21/2007 4:11:08 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“We had no other black pages, such as Nazism, for instance,” he said.

Hey Vlad — Communism and Nazism are just two sides of the same coin!

2 posted on 06/21/2007 4:12:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I believe Stalin is still the record holder with 20 million victims.


3 posted on 06/21/2007 4:16:36 PM PDT by Nachoman (I can't help the way I think.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Did he forget to compare Saddam Hussein?

Jackass.


4 posted on 06/21/2007 4:17:09 PM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: BenLurkin
Hitler studied Stalin’s already well established police state and Turkey’s “resettlement” of ethnic minorities to fine tune his political theories and methods. Putin needs to put down the crack pipe.
5 posted on 06/21/2007 4:20:02 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I see right through you, comrade Putin.

He makes a fool of himself everytime he opens his mouth.


6 posted on 06/21/2007 4:20:57 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yeah, the commies in Vietnam were really hideous, Mr. Putin. In fact, commies everywhere have been pure evil scum. But Stalin still ranks high (low) among the worst scumbags in history, and none of your propaganda will change the facts.


7 posted on 06/21/2007 4:23:39 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Speaking with the teachers, Putin suggested the United States’ use of atomic weapons against Japan at the end of World War II was worse than the abuses of Stalin. He also cited the U.S. bombing campaign and use the defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War.”

Was this really Putin talking, or was it one of the Democratic candidates for President?


8 posted on 06/21/2007 4:24:25 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Stalin killed 25 to 35 million no one that I have read about has come close. And if one wants to talk about war how about the rape of all German women in the areas taken over by the non-human Communist at the end of WW II? A Communist and a Nazi are the same both are left-wing fascist scum.
9 posted on 06/21/2007 4:28:48 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: M. Espinola

“in other countries even worse things happened.”


10 posted on 06/21/2007 4:29:48 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Putin could be a Fellow at the Center For American Progress. See if the FEC records show any contributions to MoveOn.org.


11 posted on 06/21/2007 4:35:26 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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“we had no black pages such as Nazism” If Germany had not been galvanized by someone or something to fight soviet totalitarianism to the death, Comrade Putin would be slave master of the world now , instead of having to defend his his unredeemed nations rush to a new totalitarianism. Peace on him and his henchmen.


12 posted on 06/21/2007 4:38:44 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I understand not wanting to make you Country look bad, but Pooy Poot, you are wrong as two boys ....


13 posted on 06/21/2007 4:40:43 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Putin = Rasputin.


14 posted on 06/21/2007 4:42:20 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russia should never forget the abuses of the Communist era, Putin said. But he also said no one had the right to make Russia feel guilty about those abuses.

He admits doing evil things, but he does not want to feel guilty about doing them.

So what is to stop you from doing evil things in the future, Vlad ?

15 posted on 06/21/2007 4:44:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: vetsvette
Was this really Putin talking, or was it one of the Democratic candidates for President?

Maybe it was both. After all, Putin is the world's only true democrat.

Perhaps the Democrats, in a last ditch effort, will nominate him to run for U.S. President against Fred, as their own candidates are tainted and tarnished from years of suffering the mental illness called "liberalism." </sarcasm>

16 posted on 06/21/2007 4:44:59 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * wahoo wa! ... U.Va. Engineering '09)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Sure the old USSR had a big part in supporting Nazism. Like from 1939-1941, parceling out Poland to Hitler and sabotaging the French war effort.
17 posted on 06/21/2007 4:45:02 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: Nachoman

No, Stalin was a piker. Mao’s Red China 76,702,000
http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/11/reevaluating-chinas-democide-to-be.html


18 posted on 06/21/2007 5:00:37 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: vetsvette

“Speaking with the teachers, Putin suggested the United States’ use of atomic weapons against Japan at the end of World War II was worse than the abuses of Stalin. He also cited the U.S. bombing campaign and use the defoliant Agent Orange during the Vietnam War.”

Was this really Putin talking, or was it one of the Democratic candidates for President?

My guess would be James Earl Carter, former President.


19 posted on 06/21/2007 5:13:41 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: vetsvette
Exactly.

Hitlery Clinton is a Josef Stalin FAN! She certainly could have written or said these words!!

So could John Fn Kerry!

et all

Putin and HItlery will be soulmates once she takes power. But lookout all you demonazi hoardes - just like her model - Stalin - the commies always turn on THEIR OWN eventually!

20 posted on 06/21/2007 5:15:05 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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