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Is the immigration issue hurting Lindsey Graham's image in South Carolina?
beaufortgazette.com ^ | 06/17/07 | JAMES ROSEN

Posted on 06/17/2007 12:52:12 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

WASHINGTON -- Lee Rogers, chairman of the Anderson County Republican Party, was at the beach last week when his cell phone rang. It was an urgent call from one of Rogers' Upstate GOP activists.

"He asked me what I was going to do to find somebody to run against Lindsey Graham (next year)," Rogers said. "I explained to the gentleman that's not something I can put together as a single county chairman. That's got to happen with the people."

It could be happening.

Graham, a Seneca Republican nearing the end of his first Senate term, has taken plenty of heat before, but perhaps never like this.

Thanks to his high-profile help in crafting an immigration reform bill that has stalled in the Senate, constituents call and leave screaming messages on his office voice mail.

"NO AMNESTY! NO AMNESTY!" one repeat caller yells for a minute or more in angry overnight messages that greet his aides in the morning.

Graham's staff estimates that his Senate offices have received about 3,000 letters, phone calls, e-mails and faxes about immigration in the last month, most of them critical of him. Talk-radio hosts within and beyond South Carolina deride Graham as a Ted Kennedy toady.

Rush Limbaugh has taken to calling him "Lindsey Grah-amnesty."

Bloggers challenge his manhood, assault his patriotism, mock his intellect.

Still worse for where he comes from, they belittle his Southern bona-fides.

Furious Republican loyalists lobby online for someone -- anyone -- to step forward and challenge Graham in the 2008 primary when he seeks re-election.

One Web site, dumplindsey.org, gets dozens of comments a day, few of them friendly.

"Did anyone go and see Benedict Arnold Graham and bring rotten eggs and tomatoes?" a blogger named j--richard wrote in the comments section of a Greenville News article about a recent appearance there by Graham to boost the immigration bill.

The names of possible GOP primary challengers to Graham fly across the Internet:

Gov. Mark Sanford and Rep. Gresham Barrett. Attorney General Henry McMaster. Charlie Condon, Mark McBride, Oscar Lovelace. Greg Ryberg and Buddy Witherspoon.

The name mentioned most often is State Treasurer Thomas Ravenel.

In an online survey Thursday, SCHotline.com asked whether Ravenel should break his treasury campaign pledge not to challenge Graham next year. Among 342 responders, 53 percent said "yes" while 47 percent chose "no."

"He's humbled and flattered that there are folks out there who are mentioning his name as a (Senate) candidate, but he believes in honoring his commitment," Scott Malyerk, a spokesman for Ravenel, said Thursday. "Nothing's changed."

With Graham's high national as well as statewide name recognition and his campaign war chest approaching $4 million, GOP political operatives say, any window for mounting a viable campaign against him is closing fast.

"There could be some potential political damage, but whether or not his nomination is in jeopardy, I don't know," said Rogers of Anderson County. "If somebody's going to do it, they need to do it now, and they need to get at it."

Graham said he's ready for any opponent, Republican or Democrat.

"Anyone who runs against me better get up early and stay late because I think I've been one heck of a good senator for my state and my party," Graham said Thursday in an interview. "I intend to seek office on the basis that I am not afraid to do what needs to be done."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; dumplindsey; illegalimmigration; image; immigrantlist; immigrationbill; lindseygraham; ravenel; senatorgrahamnesty; vampirebill
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1 posted on 06/17/2007 12:52:20 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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Any SC FReepers know if any of these mentioned will run?
2 posted on 06/17/2007 12:53:54 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

If only 3,000 have expressed opposition, then the popular Graham must be a shoo-in for 2008. I suspect that 3,000 was recorded, but several thousand others could not get through.


3 posted on 06/17/2007 12:55:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

It’s so risky to take on a popular icon like Graham than many will decline to run. Republican voters will be told to stick with Graham, or the seat (the old Thurmond seat, Republican since 1964) will surely go Democrat in 2008.


4 posted on 06/17/2007 12:56:31 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Not just in South Carolina.....Goober Grahamnesty has gone NATION-WIDE!


5 posted on 06/17/2007 12:56:57 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Lindsey Graham’s illegal immigration bill is hurting Lindsey Graham’s image in South Carolina and all across America.

We now know him as a backstabbing traitorous sellout.


6 posted on 06/17/2007 12:57:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bloggers challenge his manhood, assault his patriotism, mock his intellect.

And for good reason.

Grahamnesty is an effeminate, globalist moron.

7 posted on 06/17/2007 12:57:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Just another political Schmuck.
Another quasi socialist hack; perhaps a bit lighter in the combat boots than others, and with a bit less connective substance in the joining of the wrist to the hand. Say Good Night Lindsey!
8 posted on 06/17/2007 12:58:28 PM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American. PALESTINIANS: A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Strom is rolling in his grave about now. Goober must go.


9 posted on 06/17/2007 1:00:14 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Bush and McCain - the axes of domestic incompetence from CFR to La Raza)
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To: F15Eagle
The amnesty issue has revealed will willingly destroy this country. Lindsey Graham is one of them. It is essential that somebody at least run against him in the primary. He should not be given a pass. And considering his outrageous stand, he can be defeated if not in the primary then by a Democrat. Graham is a loser.
10 posted on 06/17/2007 1:02:00 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TornadoAlley3
"Anyone who runs against me better get up early and stay late because I think I've been one heck of a good senator for my state and my party," Graham said Thursday in an interview.

Ha! He's been drinking his own kool-aid. Well, it will make it that much more of a shock when the good folks of his home state toss his traitorous behind out in the street.
11 posted on 06/17/2007 1:02:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Priceless

12 posted on 06/17/2007 1:03:04 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Bush and McCain - the axes of domestic incompetence from CFR to La Raza)
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To: RasterMaster

http://dumplindsey.org/


13 posted on 06/17/2007 1:03:13 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: Dante3

I’m waiting to celebrate his defeat. May it be so and by a large margin. He would toss the Constitution, the American worker and the children of Americans into a 3rd-world disaster.

As soon as all those folks there are made to realize what he’s attempting, he won’t be able to get a job picking fruit. :)


14 posted on 06/17/2007 1:05:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: TornadoAlley3

While I am all for tossing all pro-amnesty politicians out of office the next time around, We gotta be careful. If we throw support behind someone so far to the right that they have no moderate appeal we will be no more effective than Dems who have gotten behind Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards. There is political reality to consider. Don’t believe me? Just consider how well, or rather how poorly, third party candidates have done in the past.


15 posted on 06/17/2007 1:10:10 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Theodore R.

Then why is his money slowing down coming in to him..big time..


16 posted on 06/17/2007 1:22:05 PM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: TornadoAlley3
"Anyone who runs against me better get up early and stay late because I think I've been one heck of a good senator for my state and my party,"

*snicker*

He's been reading too many of his own press releases. Methinks Goober is in for one heck of a surprise!

17 posted on 06/17/2007 1:26:09 PM PDT by Gritty (This (1986) amnesty will secure the borders. We will never again bring forth another-Teddy Kennedy)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Graham wasn’t concerned about his various stands in the Senate, because he really thought he would be on the McCain-Graham ticket and become VP in 08.

Now, with McCain’s declining poll numbers, Graham may be in search of a Plan B.


18 posted on 06/17/2007 1:27:10 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bloggers challenge his manhood, assault his patriotism, mock his intellect.

I'm guilty of one of these three and, I am so sorry. NOT!!!
19 posted on 06/17/2007 1:29:20 PM PDT by no dems (Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I live in Seneca, a couple miles from Grahams house. I thought I would never see the day when I would be willing to vote against any Republican, especially Graham but that time has come.


20 posted on 06/17/2007 1:29:20 PM PDT by RogerABC
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To: TornadoAlley3
Hmmm...looks like Ravenel could become one of those younger Senators that Lott will need to reign in.

OFFICE OF STATE TREASURER

Thomas Ravenel


21 posted on 06/17/2007 1:45:48 PM PDT by Plutarch (Bush is a coward to the left and a tyrant to the right.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Is the immigration issue hurting Lindsey Graham's image in South Carolina?

Is a hog's keyster pork?
Do wild bears defecate in the woods?
Is Mortimer Snerd pine?
Do mice like cheese?
22 posted on 06/17/2007 1:52:29 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: F15Eagle

“We now know him as a backstabbing traitorous sellout”

Wonder who bought him?


23 posted on 06/17/2007 1:58:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Lindsey Graham along with every supporter of amnesty whether they be Republican Democrat or Independent needs to be thrown out of office when their next election comes about.
They also should be stoned in the public square a.s.a.p.


24 posted on 06/17/2007 2:05:57 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: TornadoAlley3
Graham's staff estimates that his Senate offices have received about 3,000 letters, phone calls, e-mails and faxes about immigration in the last month, most of them critical of him. Talk-radio hosts within and beyond South Carolina deride Graham as a Ted Kennedy toady.

3,000? Graham's staff must be as incompetent as he is when it comes to counting, or some people aren't doing there job. THERE SHOULD BE 3,000 calls faxes and emails by tommorrow! Getrrr done!

Feinstein wanted 30,000 calls and she won't admit to how many she has gotten, Why not?

25 posted on 06/17/2007 2:06:19 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Many of us were done with him when he joined the gang of 14. This just cinches it. Now Graham is one of the best Democrats out there.


26 posted on 06/17/2007 2:11:02 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
ABL

Anybody but Lindsey.

27 posted on 06/17/2007 2:17:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hehe. The way they’re all acting I’m starting to think the Antichrist has issued orders to destroy America. It’s a good joke but they way they act is beyond irrational.


28 posted on 06/17/2007 2:20:42 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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Well, we here in Surfside Beach think it IS time for a change. I guess it must be the “Washington Plague” that has gotten to him. I don’t know what happened. I put him there the last time, but not anymore after he stated I elected him to get along with Democrafts! No I didn’t!


29 posted on 06/17/2007 2:21:24 PM PDT by MikelleeSC
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Wonder who bought him?

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That answer should be decipherable at Open Secrets . Graham gets a fair amount of money from Agribusiness and Contractors, but he receives more than most Republicans from law firms. These might well be immigration lawyers, by whom and for whom the Senate Amnesty bill has been written.

30 posted on 06/17/2007 2:22:04 PM PDT by Plutarch (Bush is a coward to the left and a tyrant to the right.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"Anyone who runs against me better get up early and stay late because I think I've been one heck of a good senator for my state and my party," Graham said Thursday in an interview. "I intend to seek office on the basis that I am not afraid to do what needs to be done."

Well, if this doesn't reek of pure Washington arrogance and elitism. My advice to SC conservatives, assuming Graham survives the primary challenge, is to simply stay home and let the Rat win. And I better not read any of this "But Graham's still a Republican! Half a loaf is better than none" garbage that's going to pollute the Forum next Fall from the GOP butt-smoochers urging us to hold our nose once again.

31 posted on 06/17/2007 2:23:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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With Graham's high national as well as statewide name recognition and his campaign war chest approaching $4 million, GOP political operatives say, any window for mounting a viable campaign against him is closing fast.

This is sad and cynical and what is wrong with the GOP. No one has to defeat Graham, he is doing a fine job of that himself. Graham is counting on the money in his warchest scaring off primary challengers. I believe a good decent candidate running a common sense campaign can beat unseat Graham with a lot less money. Graham is there for the taking, the anger is against Graham is there, a bold candidate will take this opportunity and run with it.

32 posted on 06/17/2007 2:29:24 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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Wonder who bought him?

Na... he got a terminal case of DC-itis... it causes your spine to dissolve, your testicle to shrivel, and you to chronically stumble off more and more to the left

33 posted on 06/17/2007 2:33:32 PM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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I will send $500 to any challenger.

“Constitutional Qualifications for Senator

According to Article I, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, a senator must be 30 years of age, a citizen of the United States for 9 years, and must reside in the state he or she represents at the time of election.”

Nowhere in our Constitution does it say you must be rich or a powerbroker. Some young upstart could be gaining signatures right now and with talk radio’s and the web help be heard from.

At the debates simply say, “You know I just watched “Mr. Smith goes to Washington”, and after seeing that I see Sen. Graham has moved away from the needs of SC, into the hands of the corporate world. He’s lost touch”>


34 posted on 06/17/2007 2:34:52 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Amnesty GOP members are betting on a Clinton nomination, to get their support back!)
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re: GOP political operatives say, any window for mounting a viable campaign against him is closing fast.)))

OK. Drag your feet.

How about a Democrat mounting a viable campaign against him? Rahm Immanuel--find a conservative Dem, and you've got a new seat in the Senate.

Grahamnesty--hah. Think you're invulnerable? Think again.

35 posted on 06/17/2007 2:40:08 PM PDT by Mamzelle ("Mr. Elite Pro-Amnesty Republican--has your family ever employed illegal labor?")
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To: Theodore R.
Republican voters will be told to stick with Graham...

But who is telling them... and should they listen?


36 posted on 06/17/2007 2:40:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Actually, if I lived in S.C. I would make it a point to go out and vote for the Democrat.....regardless of who it is, to beat Graham.
At least the Democrat would KNOW why they won and maybe try to keep their nose clean.
If Graham wins after this there is absolutely nothing he can’t get away with and he will know. it.
By the way, I have never voted for a Democrat in my entire life but I would make an exception for Lindsey Graham.


37 posted on 06/17/2007 2:49:44 PM PDT by sheana
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To: TornadoAlley3

I sure hope so.


38 posted on 06/17/2007 2:50:52 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Plutarch

Well. I’ve never seen a pic of Ravenel before. Not bad.


39 posted on 06/17/2007 2:53:07 PM PDT by Mamzelle ("Mr. Elite Pro-Amnesty Republican--has your family ever employed illegal labor?")
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To: Plutarch

Wonder how DeMint’s donations stack up? Gawsh, that’s a lot of money Grahamnesty is getting from lawyers!!


40 posted on 06/17/2007 2:55:24 PM PDT by Mamzelle ("Mr. Elite Pro-Amnesty Republican--has your family ever employed illegal labor?")
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To: TornadoAlley3
I think I've been one heck of a good senator for my state and my party," Graham said

Lindsey, you are living in denial, and it isn't in Egypt

I don't think these knuckleheads understand how mad we conservatives are.

41 posted on 06/17/2007 3:02:35 PM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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“Anyone who runs against me better get up early and stay late because I think I’ve been one heck of a good senator for my state and my party,” Graham said Thursday in an interview. “I intend to seek office on the basis that I am not afraid to do what needs to be done.”

Comment:

Se Senor Grahamnesty.

Plenty of illegals get up every morning early for their trek to Home Deport and get on their knees, looking East and say “Gracious Senor Grahamnesty”.

42 posted on 06/17/2007 3:03:30 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Mamzelle

Dang, he’s a hottie!


43 posted on 06/17/2007 3:05:20 PM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: Theodore R.
If the potential candidates are so damn scared of Limply Grahamnasty they probably would not be a much better senator than this piece of fecal matter is now.

Stay out if you don’t have the brass cajoles to take on this RINO.

44 posted on 06/17/2007 3:06:03 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"I intend to seek office on the basis that I am not afraid to do what needs to be done."

Even if it means not doing what the overwhelming majority of your voting constituents wants you to do. That's not courage, that's Bushit as well as asinine.

45 posted on 06/17/2007 3:09:15 PM PDT by Ron H. (Lindsey Grah-amnesty and Jorge Boosh - two birds of the same feather.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stubborn character. As I predicted he would try to resurrect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up. We have no choice but to fight. The oligarchy wants cheap labor and a destruction of the middle class and the millionaire democrats want votes they can count on. A marriage made in HELL.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an addendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarrass these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

46 posted on 06/17/2007 3:22:00 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: sheana
"By the way, I have never voted for a Democrat in my entire life but I would make an exception for Lindsey Graham."

I think if someone runs against him in the primaries - the grass roots will make sure that candidate has the resources to beat Lindsey - the limp spined Rino!!

47 posted on 06/17/2007 3:27:56 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: Plutarch

“That answer should be decipherable at Open Secrets . Graham gets a fair amount of money from Agribusiness and Contractors, but he receives more than most Republicans from law firms. These might well be immigration lawyers, by whom and for whom the Senate Amnesty bill has been written.”

Thank for the info!


48 posted on 06/17/2007 3:45:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: tophat9000

LOL!!


49 posted on 06/17/2007 3:48:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TomGuy

‘Graham...thought he would be on the McCain-Graham ticket and become VP in 08..... Now, with McCain’s declining poll numbers, Graham may be in search of a Plan.’

Exactly what i believe. Graham was acting like a puppy dog to McCain. Doubt, Rudy, Mitt or Fred will think Lindsey’s a good VP candidate. Hope SC can find a good R candidate to trounce Graham(and any Dem) in his re-election bid.


50 posted on 06/17/2007 3:49:44 PM PDT by 4integrity
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