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Conservatives would bolt GOP over Rudy
The Politico ^

Posted on 06/11/2007 2:37:07 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Conservatives would bolt GOP over Rudy By: David Paul Kuhn June 11, 2007 04:57 PM EST

A growing number of influential social conservatives are speaking out against Rudy Giuliani, with some threatening that they will take flight from the Republican Party in 2008 if the former New York mayor is the GOP nominee.

Giuliani's support for abortion rights and gay rights has not to date prevented him from winning the support of a sizable number of socially conservative voters, according to polls. But the continued strength of his candidacy is causing alarm among leaders of conservative advocacy groups, many of which have been major players in Republican politics.

"Speaking as a private citizen, no, no, I could not support (Giuliani)," said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, which has about a half-million members. "The 20 years I've been involved in politics, the life issue has been at the very top. How could I turn my back on that?"

Perkins said that should Giuliani win the nomination, he would vote for a third-party candidate who reflected his values. "It wouldn't be the first time," Perkins added in an interview last week.

Other prominent cultural conservatives to signal public opposition to Giuliani in recent weeks included James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Louis Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition, veteran activist and former presidential candidate Gary Bauer, and Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention.

Like Perkins, Land has warned that he would not vote for a Republican ticket in 2008 if it were led by Giuliani. Others did not go that far, even as they made plain their wish that Giuliani be weeded out in the primaries.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativevote; giuliani; no; notquite; noway; tonyperkins
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To: Sans-Culotte

It would take a clothespin and a gas mask, but I might vote for Rudy.

I’m hoping and praying that he isn’t the Repub nominee.

(”No Pants?” Funny screen name!)


21 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:01 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sunshine patriots and fair weather friends, who needs ‘em?


22 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:13 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Sub-Driver
The G-man became a hero after 9-11. In his former political arena, he was conservative (By their standards) and his positions on abortion, gays, etc. helped him politically. However, sometimes a mans history comes to haunt him, and today he will face a Bible Belt and those calling themselves conservative outside of his little former arena that share little love for him.

He came in strong because of name recognition and a positive connection with 911. He’s a good public speaker and his campaign has money. But all that only goes so far. The more the conservatives learn about him, the more they will reject him, and he will not be able to ride to the top without having his past uncovered. His undoing will be his stance on critical issues that define social and economic conservatism to most of America: abortion, guns, taxes, gays, and personal affairs. No way will he hold together the party and rally support with his positions on these issues. Not even remotely feasible.

23 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:39 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: conserv8ive1

.....good for you....I’m picking the lesser of two evils I guess....and if anything, I’m pretty pissed off at the power hungry conservatives that lost us the last election also.....and Bush’s antics.....hell, honestly, I don’t trust most politicians in either party.....


24 posted on 06/11/2007 2:52:56 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Perdogg

I think in the long run if Rudy or Romney are nominated the healthiest thing would be for the dems to carry the election. The GOP can get rid of the limo RINOS and get back to what the party is supposed to be about.


25 posted on 06/11/2007 2:53:06 PM PDT by CTK YKC
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To: Sub-Driver

Tony Perkins (player of parts?), what do you think the chances are of a third party candidate winning the presidency? Or of even keeping the country safe from the Clintons and another massive sell-out of our national security? Or do you even care?


26 posted on 06/11/2007 2:53:26 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: conserv8ive1

So, you won’t even try to get rid of those supporting amnesty? You’ll let them win the primary and then let someone far worse win the general?


27 posted on 06/11/2007 2:54:26 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: Perdogg

“We would have a European socialist till the mullahs nuke us”.


What kind of socialist is Rudy?


28 posted on 06/11/2007 2:55:00 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: paul51

Are you kidding? The only thing that will wake the GOP up is conservatives going to vote for solid nominees all the way down the ticket in the primaries.


29 posted on 06/11/2007 2:56:45 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Why did the Nuclear Regulatory Commission seek a donation from you?
30 posted on 06/11/2007 2:57:04 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Conservatives would bolt GOP over Rudy

Oh, dear ... much wailing and gnashing of teeth, over at the WAambulance, along about now, lol.

31 posted on 06/11/2007 2:57:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sybeck1

And there’s the point. Like we have fits over Giuliani but we’re supposed to give the “compassionate cowboy conservative” from Crawford a pass.Right now Giuliani is just a wanna be,while Bush is still in a position to hurt us a lot.So maybe the conservatives better concentrate at the moment on who’s their worst nightmare !!!


32 posted on 06/11/2007 2:57:54 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Vigilanteman

I don’t disagree.

Guiliani would be a great conseravative Democrat.


33 posted on 06/11/2007 2:58:21 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Where would you get that idea?
These idiots need to be crushed in the primary phase and replaced with CONSERVATIVES.


34 posted on 06/11/2007 2:58:30 PM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: bnelson44

If the GOP has drifted that far left to nominate a liberal, it’s adios amigos.


35 posted on 06/11/2007 2:58:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Vigilanteman

No, Joe Lieberman is a lot closer to Ronald Reagan than Rudy is, I’d cash a personal check for Joe!


36 posted on 06/11/2007 2:58:49 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Sub-Driver

And since when does the Family Research Council determine RNC policy?


37 posted on 06/11/2007 3:00:30 PM PDT by O6ret
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m not going to waste my vote on someone who does not represent my views regardless of who that allows to win. Fear mongering does not cut it.


38 posted on 06/11/2007 3:00:30 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

In order to do that, there will have to be at least one on the ballot.


39 posted on 06/11/2007 3:00:41 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why doesn’t the GOP just expell him from the party like they did with David Duke?

Rudy is really a Democrat anyway so he may as well run as one.


40 posted on 06/11/2007 3:01:53 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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