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Preferred Growth Scenario [Sen. Tom McClintock California Senate speech on urban planning bill]
State Senate Web site ^ | June 7, 2007 | Senator Tom McClintock

Posted on 06/08/2007 11:43:36 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

SB 375 requires all regional transportation planning decisions and all transportation funding to be limited to a “preferred growth scenario,” that requires a minimum housing density of 10 units per acre. It was adopted by the Senate on June 7, 2007. Here is Senator McClintock’s speech in opposition to the bill:

Mr. President:

This measure says that all transportation plans and transportation funding decisions must be made with the object of concentrating people in dense urban cores. In this bill, it is called a “Preferred Growth Scenario.” It says all transportation plans and funds must serve this “Preferred Growth Scenario,” and that, in turn, means at an absolute minimum packing in ten families per acre. Ten Families.

Welcome to the brave new world of central planning. This is a continuation of the policy that Gov. Schwarzenegger institutionalized with AB 32 and that Attorney General Brown operationalized by suing San Bernardino County.

They’re basically saying, “You cannot build new highways until you can show how you’re going to build them without using earth-moving equipment or concrete and that, once they’re built, nobody is going to use them.”

But the Left has an alternative – that’s what this bill is all about. They want everyone to move into dense urban cores – the denser the better. That’s what this bill means when it uses the term, “Preferred Growth Scenario.”

And fellow Californians: They aren’t talking about your preferences for your own life – they’re talking about their preferences for your own life. And for your family’s life.

“Preferred Growth Scenario.” They prefer that you move into dense urban cores – and they are prepared to manipulate public policy and misuse government authority to force you to do so.

And they couldn’t care less what you prefer for your own life and your own family.

I’ve got news for the authoritarians on the Left: most people don’t want to live in dense urban cores. Most people want a little elbow room – they want a yard for their children to play in. They want a little grass, a little garden, a little breathing room they can call their own.

And who the hell are you to tell people they can’t? Who the hell are you to tell people how and where they’re going to live? Who the hell are you to impose your preferences for their lives over their own preferences for their lives?

That’s at the heart of this issue. People have a right to live their lives according to their own preferences – not government’s – and they have a right to live where they please – to acquire property and enjoy that property. And in any free nation, government exists to respect and protect and accommodate that right.

The people were just sold a $20 billion bond measure to address our sadly neglected highways. After the election, the Governor’s Director of CalTrans admitted that at most $8 billion of the $20 would be used for highway construction. And this measure says little if any will be used for highways.

Many of us warned we were being sold a bill of goods – that very little of that money would actually be used for highway construction. This bill is the ultimate proof of those warnings.

And it is the ultimate expression and embodiment of an arrogant, out of touch class of elitists who actually believe that they are naturally entitled to run your life for you.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab32; agenda21; callegislation; caltransportation; centralplanning; mcclintock; prop1b; sb375
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This speech was the highlight of my week. Tom McClintock is a rare modern conservative orators.

I'll try and post the video on You Tube when I get the copy I ordered yesterday.

1 posted on 06/08/2007 11:43:38 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: SmithL; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; CindyDawg; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; dighton; ...

ping


2 posted on 06/08/2007 11:43:55 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Who the He!! are all these people?
3 posted on 06/08/2007 11:47:44 AM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Liberals want people shoved into Soviet-style apartment blocks where they can be watched. They hate people moving into exurbia. They don't want people to move to where its less crowded. Just think about that when they want to decide where people in California are going to be allowed to live. I'm glad I left there to live where I want, not where some bureaucrat says I must.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 06/08/2007 12:01:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: stillonaroll; Right Cal Gal; whinecountry; Walkenfree; b9; antceecee; atomic_dog; AVNevis; ...
A MUST Read.

McClintock Ping List.
Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list

5 posted on 06/08/2007 12:07:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: stillonaroll; Right Cal Gal; whinecountry; Walkenfree; b9; antceecee; atomic_dog; AVNevis; ...
A MUST Read.

McClintock Ping List.
Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list

6 posted on 06/08/2007 12:07:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All

Sorry everyone for the double post/ping.


7 posted on 06/08/2007 12:13:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; SmithL; ElkGroveDan

That’s ok. I been down investigatin the “hell” thread by SmithL!!! (snart!)


8 posted on 06/08/2007 12:17:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: SmithL; All
It's called 'smart growth'. Read this sometimes, you'll never feel the same way about what's going on in this country again. Click on my name when you have the time and read to your hearts content.

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/1335656/posts?q=1&;page=1

9 posted on 06/08/2007 12:19:46 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: SmithL; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; All
"And who the hell are you to tell people they can’t? Who the hell are you to tell people how and where they’re going to live? Who the hell are you to impose your preferences for their lives over their own preferences for their lives?"

Hey! We KNOW who the "hell" these legislaughterers are!!! THESE ARE THE TOTALITARIANS, Tom!!!

10 posted on 06/08/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


11 posted on 06/08/2007 12:31:54 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: processing please hold
It's called 'smart growth'.

It's called Agenda21.

12 posted on 06/08/2007 12:31:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


13 posted on 06/08/2007 12:32:06 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: ElkGroveDan; All
"And in any free nation, government exists to respect and protect and accommodate that right."

Even though you didn't ping me, I'm compelled to comment anyways!

Is there ANYONE in FReeperland that can quarrel with that statement, including the preceding sentence??? How 'bout just some quibbling??? Anyone???

14 posted on 06/08/2007 12:39:38 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...
The horror is... That beguiled CA Americans are buying it!!! Meanwhile, the MSM is chasing another celebrity skank Hilton miniskirt just like too many CA Repellicans swooned over celebrity Schwartzenfrauder's Goofinator' Recall campaign!!!

When will they ever learn??? When will they ever er er learn??? (hippie folk singers from the 60's and 70's)

15 posted on 06/08/2007 12:50:37 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: Carry_Okie

That’s the thread I posted...Agenda 21.


16 posted on 06/08/2007 12:54:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Carry_Okie

Sorry. Linked!


17 posted on 06/08/2007 12:55:20 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: editor-surveyor

California is being more and more open about this kind of ... stuff. They must be as out-of-touch with ordinary citizens as our legislators.


18 posted on 06/08/2007 1:01:23 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Carry_Okie
But it's such a nice (gang)Green color. ;-)


19 posted on 06/08/2007 1:12:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SierraWasp
beguiled CA Americans are buying it!!! Meanwhile, the MSM is chasing another celebrity skank Hilton

California aren't necessaily buying it: Most of them don't even know about it because, as you said, the media is too busy following that whining tart Paris Hilton to report on the crap coming out of Sacramento. Besides, the MSM wants to keep citizens in the dark about what's going on in leftist legislatures -- the lamestream media is all for it. They think they're part of the elite core that would be exempted.

20 posted on 06/08/2007 1:22:10 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Bookmarked.

Ping me when you post it on YouTube if you could. :-)


21 posted on 06/08/2007 1:25:11 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Don't blame me... I voted for Tom McClintock)
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To: Schatze

How far away from the tomato patch (Crapitol) are ya?


22 posted on 06/08/2007 1:41:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: SierraWasp
How 'bout just some quibbling??? Anyone???

They all got banned about a month or so back.

23 posted on 06/08/2007 2:21:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: calcowgirl
Guaranteed said corridor will have buffers and "sound walls" equivalent to military protection. Just watch.
24 posted on 06/08/2007 2:28:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: ElkGroveDan
"They all got banned about a month or so back."

Oh! You mean them compromisers and appeasers and opportunists and pragmatists who think the only answer to political action is to suppress their commitment to any consistent conservative movement???

The ones that are embarrassed by committed 100 percenters and fundamentalist Christians in the conservative movement and prefer the big government/big tent approach???

25 posted on 06/08/2007 3:00:55 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: Kay Ludlow; SierraWasp; calcowgirl
"They must be as out-of-touch with ordinary citizens..."

They are especially out of touch with reality. Urban living is killing delta smelt, by concentrating our waste and dumping it into the rivers. No fish will ultimately be able to survive this insane urbanization scheme. Our wastes have historically gone on the land, where they belong, to be consumed by vegetation.

If we live in dense cities, we're going to have to get along without any fish in our streams. People are led to believe that sewage treatment plants can clean the water sufficiently, but that is impossible. No fish can live for more than a few days in even tertiary effluents. This is because of chloramines, trihalomethane, and nitrosamines. Attempts to remove them result in even more toxic byproducts.

26 posted on 06/08/2007 3:04:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: SierraWasp

I think they call them trolls. ;-)


27 posted on 06/08/2007 3:08:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: editor-surveyor
Our wastes have historically gone on the land, where they belong, to be consumed by vegetation.

I guess they never read Genesis 1:28, not to mention Genesis 2:5, 2:15, or 3:16, never mind Leviticus 25 & 26.

Oh well, maybe they'll get a clue when we start to see the equivalent of Deuteronomy 28.

28 posted on 06/08/2007 3:18:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie; processing please hold
"Oh well, maybe they'll get a clue when we start to see the equivalent of Deuteronomy 28."

That's where my money is. They've declared themselves to be above God; what else can come?

28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth;
a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
28:51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.

29 posted on 06/08/2007 3:46:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
It's even more potent in Hebrew.
30 posted on 06/08/2007 3:53:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: calcowgirl

Brevity is the soul of wit!!! I prefer your “trolls” to my long two paragraphs of pejoritive adjectivies... Trolls are everywhere!!!


31 posted on 06/08/2007 8:31:28 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: calcowgirl

Brevity is the soul of wit!!! I prefer your “trolls” to my long two paragraphs of pejoritive adjectivies... Trolls are everywhere!!!


32 posted on 06/08/2007 8:35:20 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: SierraWasp
How far away from the tomato patch (Crapitol) are ya?

Ha! I'm in the belly of the liberal beast: the Bay Area (near San Jose, which is a bit better than San Franfreakshow).

33 posted on 06/08/2007 9:22:12 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Schatze; NormsRevenge

Ah good. You understood my cryptic question. If I’m not mistaken, NormsRevenge is also in your general vicinity. Weren’t you the the Fonz’s TV show? (grin) There are several FReepers in and around the South Bay Area...


34 posted on 06/08/2007 9:27:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl

They aren’t really ‘buying’ it. Many of them are being bribed to accept it by getting the below standard,below market price apartments to live in if they promise not to own a car and live on less than 10 gallons of water a day.

This is a fantastic analysis by Sen. McClintock and we should all make thousands of copies of it and hand it out in front of those G-d awful developments to the brainwashed and passive souls who are populating them.


35 posted on 06/08/2007 9:37:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: SierraWasp
There are several FReepers in and around the South Bay Area...

That's good to know. We're badly outnumbered, but I'll never cross over to the dark side (translation for DU trolls: the left).

36 posted on 06/08/2007 9:47:21 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Are the days now gone when people were smart enough to figure this stuff out for themselves based on plain old common sense??? Or has the pubic schrool indoctrination along with the "boob-tube" finally dumbed the people down enough to suffocate the American Dream down to the lowest commonist denominator?
37 posted on 06/08/2007 9:48:44 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: Schatze

Well... At least you don’t live under the jurisdiction of the CA Coastal Commission, or Schwartzenegger’s stupid Sierra-Nevada CONservancy GovernMental EnvironMental State Agency!!!


38 posted on 06/08/2007 9:53:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: SierraWasp
At least you don’t live under the jurisdiction of the CA Coastal Commission

I've heard horror stories about these land-grabbers on one of our local (conservative) talk stations. They won't be happy until the state government owns every square inch of California.

39 posted on 06/08/2007 10:49:12 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl

CA has established a soviet socialist dictatorship where all decisions on land will be made by the state for the Marxist common good, as defined by the state.

It’s apparent to me, but the majority of California citizens don’t see it, and those who do are mustering little if any resistance. McClintock is taking that first step to expose this imminent serf/master dictatorship by exposing it.

McClintock and his supporters need to form an anti-fascist party to first educate the citizens, and then start to take over local governments via elections to prepare for the battle against the thieving Marxists infesting the state capital.


40 posted on 06/09/2007 4:41:47 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50¢ coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: SierraWasp; Schatze
At least you don’t live under the jurisdiction of the CA Coastal Commission, or Schwartzenegger’s stupid Sierra-Nevada CONservancy GovernMental EnvironMental State Agency!!!

How can you live in California and not be under the jurisdiction of these government disasters? Together they cover a significant portion of the state!
41 posted on 06/09/2007 7:09:13 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: sergeantdave; hedgetrimmer; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; forester; marsh2; Paloma_55; ...
Back in the Gay Nineties we staged such a revolt here in my county just in time for the grand 1994 conservative coup!!!

In fact, for the first time in a long time, Republicans, mostly conservative ones, actually achieved a majority in CA's lower house just as we finally got Willie Brown term limited out of the Speakership!!!

But like a bunch of untrained and unprepared dogs that had so much fun chasing cars(liberals) that they simply din't have a clue what to do when they caught them and got elected. They didn't know how to govern and the liberals had a hay-day pointing that out to the MSM!!!

Some won election to local offices like you suggested. They came on so radical and so overeager that several in northern CA got immediately Recalled by shocked voters who liberals had a ball working up into an emotional high!!!

Many ploughed ahead, doing things right, yet the leftist EnvironMentalists and NIMBY/BANANA activists spent the next three years in league with a very supportive MSM (Sacramento BEE in my area) to quickly change local Californian's perceptions toward traditional land use and conservatives supporting normal American traditional land use policies to as intensely negative as possible.

Using buzzwords like "old boy network" and "property rights fanatics," they turned nearly all of it around in four short years!!! We went from "dancing in the streets" to "same song, second verse... a little bit louder and a little bit worse," to where we are now heading into their "Preferred Growth Scenario!" (Agenda 21/Sustainable Development/Smart Growth/Commonistic Socialism REBORN!)

Yes, hedgetrimmer, the controversial Schwartzenegger Sierra-Nevada CONservancy alone covers over 1/5th of CA with another unneeded layer of land use government with a minority of it's board being actual elected members!!! It's a SIN against America's constitutional traditional founding fight against "Taxation Without (proper) Representation!"

42 posted on 06/09/2007 1:04:52 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," I'm in contempt of all three branches of our governments!!!)
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To: sergeantdave
first educate the citizens

This is where we have failed our citizens, all these years.
43 posted on 06/09/2007 1:35:22 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer

I’d recommend you do a head count and find out which media outlets - radio, TV, print - are on your side. Then organize a meeting and plan a counter-offensive.

I’m sure there are hundreds of businesses fed up with the bureaucrat fascists who would be willing to buy ads. You need to get a foothold in friendly territory, then spread your influence outward.

Look around and find someone with a computer and layout skills. Get some writers on board. You’ll also need someone to call on businesses to buy ads.

Find a printer with a web press. For about $1,000 you can print up a magazine-size publication - 32 pages, 5,000 copies - to get the information out. Businesses buying ads will pay for production costs, writers and an advertising person, plus give you a small profit. For an extra $150 or so you can print up 10,000 copies.

Give away copies of the magazine to businesses and let them sell the magazines for $1 to public. If a business buys an ad for $75, give it 150 copies. That will pay for the ad plus give a small profit. This strategy will encourage businesses to buy ads.

The magazine can be used to explain what individual rights are, how the bureaucrats are robbing people of their birthright and investigative pieces can be done.

This will get your message out and start putting the fascists on the defensive, as they’ll need to justify their Marxist policies to readers and constituents.


44 posted on 06/09/2007 2:15:30 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50¢ coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: sergeantdave

I know that they are regulating natural resource users to death. Pretty soon, we will have to open the floodgates and allow development on our farms and ranches because they can no longer afford to comply.

Currently, the state wants to:
(1)shut down all suction dredge mining through AB 1032 and the hearing next week at the water quality control Board on mining impacts;
(2) add a whole bunch of new regulations to implement “recovery” measures for coho on the timber industry (and I thought “recovery” actions were voluntary;
(3) regulate agriculture through
(a)water quality total maximum daily load limits on sediment, nutrients and temperature,
(b) new riparian and wetlands controls,
(c) waste discharge regulations (WDRs,)
(d)Section 404 Clean water act permits (now they want to remove “naviagable waters of the US so the feds can control nonnavigable in-state streams)
(e) incidental take permits on salmon,
(f) 1603 permits from the Dept. of Fish and Game to divert water from a fish bearing stream
(g) new limits on development in a flood plain


45 posted on 06/09/2007 2:43:46 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: sergeantdave

It’s time to renew my commitment as a citizen to the founding values of my country. I have been working various venues for years— if the immigration bill defeat is an indication, then there is hope for this country yet.

Thanks for the timely information. I hope to find a way to make use of it soon.


46 posted on 06/09/2007 3:07:08 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: marsh2

Any chance of impeaching the entire state assembly and congress? Do you think Arnold is too protected by internationalist interests to be recalled?


47 posted on 06/09/2007 3:08:39 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: marsh2

These are the types of issues that need to be explained to California citizens, especially those in rural California through some kind of friendly media.

My search for land in California back in November convinced me that California landowners are in deep, deep trouble. The restrictions on building, even on 50 acre parcels composed of goathills and manzinata, were draconian.


48 posted on 06/09/2007 3:09:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50¢ coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; editor-surveyor; Avoiding_Sulla
But it's such a nice (gang)Green color. ;-)

Whaddya say we call its sponsors the "liegeslature."

It's a term so obvious it's almost scary that I've never seen it here before.

49 posted on 06/09/2007 10:15:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie; marsh2; sergeantdave; hedgetrimmer; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; ...
It looks like Dan Walters is trying very hard to agree with us in today's BEE! The best part is in the last half of his article!!! (It's about McClintock and that creepy leftist gettin into it over this bastardization of land use authority bill)
50 posted on 06/10/2007 5:05:40 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," I'm in contempt of all three branches of our governments!!!)
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