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Illegals bill stems traffic only 25% (Congress should read this)
The Washington Times ^ | June 5, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 06/05/2007 9:07:22 AM PDT by BMC1

The Senate's immigration bill will cut annual illegal immigration by just 25 percent, and the bill's new guest-worker program could lead to at least 500,000 more illegal aliens within a decade, Congress' accounting arm said yesterday. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said in its official cost estimate that many guest workers will overstay their time in the plan, with the number totaling a half-million in 2017 and reaching 1 million a decade later. "We anticipate that many of those would remain in the United States illegally after their visas expire," CBO said of the guest-worker program. In a blow to President Bush's timetable, the CBO said the security "triggers" that must be met before the guest-worker program can begin won't be met until 2010. Mr. Bush had hoped to have those triggers -- setting up a verification system, deploying 20,000 U.S. Border Patrol agents and constructing hundreds of miles of fencing and vehicle barriers -- completed about the time he leaves office in January 2009. The bill is the result of a "grand bargain" reached by a small bipartisan group of senators and the Bush administration in closed-door negotiations. Under the deal, illegal aliens get immediate legal status and a pathway to citizenship, businesses get access to a stream of temporary workers in the future, and future immigration will take into account needed skills. Senators returned yesterday after a weeklong vacation to make a last push to pass the bill by Friday. The Senate yesterday adopted four amendments by unanimous consent, including one that curbs courts' ability to review revocations of visas. But because of the slow pace of work before their vacation, senators have most of the contentious votes still to come. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican, warned Democrats not to try to cut off Republicans' amendments.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; illegalsbillstems; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion
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1 posted on 06/05/2007 9:07:26 AM PDT by BMC1
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Hell, more than 250,000 have come in since January 2007. According to the bill, they are not eligible for Z-visas.


2 posted on 06/05/2007 9:08:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Kyle, Bush and McCain think we are all stupid and should shut up.

I think we had better get a lot louder if we intend to stop this sham of a bill.


3 posted on 06/05/2007 9:12:00 AM PDT by BMC1 ( (MOHAMMED INVENTED ISLAM IN ORDER TO LOOT, MURDER AND SUBJUGATE OTHERS. THEY DO SATAN'S BIDDING.))
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Just a side note but did anybody see O’Rielly last nite when they were interviewing the father of the Brothers recently arrested in the JFK plot. He explained how he came to America. He hired a coyote in Mexico and shazamm here illegally for the last 30 or so years.So by way of Mexico we can now fault the non regulated borders with the plot to blow up JFK.

ENFORCE THE BORDERS FIRST

4 posted on 06/05/2007 9:12:50 AM PDT by lakeman
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To: kabar
Hell, more than 250,000 have come in since January 2007. According to the bill, they are not eligible for Z-visas.

As if any backdated electric bill or pay stub will be checked in the 24 hours allowed for a background check for the prelimary Z-visa.

5 posted on 06/05/2007 9:13:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: kabar
What they never address is what is actualy going to happen.

There will be no tough enforcement on eomploying illegals. (because they "solved" the problem)

So, illegals will still come and still take no part in this new system. They will work for less than the newly legal illegals, without all the red tape and none of the beuraucratic costs. So, we will have a multi tier system of immigration, some legal and STILL some not--with illegals still undercutting everyone else.

Gonna be a mess.

6 posted on 06/05/2007 9:14:34 AM PDT by riri
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(Congress should read this)

Sorry to disappoint you bur Congress can't read, they can only write. If they read what they write they would tear it up and start over again.

7 posted on 06/05/2007 9:19:54 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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bump


8 posted on 06/05/2007 9:22:59 AM PDT by VOA
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To: BMC1
But how are we going to have the Amnesty Act of 2026 if we stop illegal immigration now? Jeesh!
9 posted on 06/05/2007 9:24:27 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: KarlInOhio

I read that they only need a family member to vouch for them that they have been here before January 2007 and that will suffice.

This whole thing would be a bad joke if it weren’t really happening.


10 posted on 06/05/2007 9:25:00 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: riri

Agreed. For business, the attractiveness of illegals is that they are cheap, exploitable, and can be paid off of the books. Once they gain legalized status, the bloom goes off of the rose. I agree that we still will have plenty of illegals, not only new ones but those who won’t comply with the new system and would rather remain in the shadows. I think many of them think this is a trick to deport them. Once they register and we find out where the live and work, it will easier to round them up or so they believe.


11 posted on 06/05/2007 9:27:13 AM PDT by kabar
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To: BMC1

“the bill’s new guest-worker program could lead to at least **500,000 more illegal aliens within a decade**, Congress’ accounting arm said yesterday.”

In `86 they thought we would get 1 million alien applicants, and 3 million applied.

According to the government, we now have 12 million illegal aliens (although I suspect you ccould double or triple that number) living in the shadows now; since that figure is from the last 20 years—6 million a decade. (not a half million)

The `learning curve’ here seems to reflect greater numbers of uninvited guests—not smaller numbers—as our neighbors to the south come to appreciate that la migra leys de los Estados Unidos estan really, really flexible.

!Vamanos, muchachos—quiero dinero gringo tambien!


12 posted on 06/05/2007 9:28:15 AM PDT by tumblindice (Alien Ant Farm)
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including one that curbs courts' ability to review revocations of visas

Interesting.

13 posted on 06/05/2007 9:29:46 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: kabar
Hell, more than 250,000 have come in since January 2007. According to the bill, they are not eligible for Z-visas.

Yup, there is no way they could use a computer to print up a rent receipt dated Dec 2006 that would make them eligible to stay.

Especially when one considers that the feds have a complete business day to investigate them. Not many will stand up to that withering investigation.
/S

14 posted on 06/05/2007 9:31:51 AM PDT by RJL (Does Mexico have incriminating photos of Bush from his drinking days?)
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To: riri

The American Caste System


15 posted on 06/05/2007 9:40:29 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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16 posted on 06/05/2007 9:44:43 AM PDT by Gritty (This is a good bill fair to the best interests of the United States of America-Sen. Dianne Feinstein)
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BEF as Laura Ingraham said - Border Enforcement First.


17 posted on 06/05/2007 9:54:43 AM PDT by crunk
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I just went down my list of calls and used the CBO report against this bill.
The population numbers alone are quite scary. 160 million people by 2010? That is over half our current population!


18 posted on 06/05/2007 10:28:31 AM PDT by sheana
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To: BMC1

TURN THE ENEMIES WEAPON AGAINST HIM

Call the “Senate Immigration Reform Hotline” at 1 800 417 7666
Press 1 for your senior senator, 2 for your junior senator.

This will connect you DIRECTLY to your senator without going through the congressional switchboard.

JAM THE LINES. LET THEM HEAR OUR ANGER AND FURY.


19 posted on 06/05/2007 10:29:07 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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“We anticipate that many of those would remain in the United States illegally after their visas expire,” CBO said of the guest-worker program.”

The simple things that anyone with an IQ above 70 understand - except Bush, McPain and McKennedy, unless they are simply denying what they know to be true.

To those of us who are not part of the cabal of the three idiots, it is not a matter of simple belief or anticipation, but a clear understanding that if you provide additional means for people to get into the country “temporarily” they will execute the maxim that there is nothing less permanent that what is intended to be temporary, particularly when it comes to the willingness of American politicians to enforce a “temporary” permit to be here.

On the part of many of the unskilled and less-skilled, any means to get here legally or otherwise, in any way at all, will be used as a means to stay, even when that means is a “temporary” or “guest worker” permit that they have. And they know that the McBushes, McPain’s and McKennedy’s will never enforce any legal demand that anyone here illegally must leave.

They know the Z visa and the Y visa and the “guest worker” programs will become a de-facto amnesty and just as now it will be irrelevant to them whether or not that ever inhibits a “green card” or citizenship, because simply being allowed to stay and work here, regardless of any “green card” depreciates the value of obtaining one.

Meanwhile, as non-citizens and as a growing population of non-citizens on American soil they will begin to demand that the political authority with whom they claim citizenship - predominately Mexico - become a stronger presence in settling their local affairs where they reside - in the U.S.; even seeking government funding and support from that authority for their local needs.

Having anticipated this, Mexican law already provides for the establishment of seats in the Mexican parliament to “represent” Mexicans living in the U.S.


20 posted on 06/05/2007 10:31:34 AM PDT by Wuli
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