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According to the WHO's Africa definition, "AIDS is diagnosed on the basis of non-specific clinical symptoms and without an HIV test," Mr Fiala says. Even today, "people with for example continuous diarrhoea, weight loss and itching are declared to be suffering from AIDS. But also the typical symptoms for tuberculosis - fever, weight loss and coughing - are officially considered to be AIDS, even without an HIV test," holds the Austrian specialist.
1 posted on 06/02/2007 12:31:06 PM PDT by xzins
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ping to the article

quite intriguing and quite recent

No one wants to be heartless about sick people, but why is there 45 billion for questionable aids in africa and no funding for a fence in America?


2 posted on 06/02/2007 12:35:41 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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but last time I checked, spending on AIDS research exceeded spending on TB by a crushing factor of 90 to one

TB needs a new lobby.
3 posted on 06/02/2007 12:38:24 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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The purpose of AIDS programs in Africa is to allow African governments freer access to western money than previously allowed.


4 posted on 06/02/2007 12:38:45 PM PDT by Dogrobber
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If I remember correctly, a few years back the prediction was for millions and millions dead in Africa from AIDS by now.


6 posted on 06/02/2007 12:41:57 PM PDT by DBrow
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I don’t really care whether aids in Africa is a bluff or not. They should NEVER be sent any of our tax money. It should be the job of charities, not the U.S. taxpayer.
Thanks again George Bush.


8 posted on 06/02/2007 12:42:37 PM PDT by sheana
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Everyone has AIDS!
AIDS AIDS AIDS!
AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS!
Everyone has AIDS!

And so this is the end of our story
And everyone is dead from AIDS
It took from me my best friend
My only true pal
My only bright star (he died of AIDS)

Well I’m gonna march on Washington
Lead the fight and charge the brigades
There’s a hero inside of all of us
I’ll make them see everyone has AIDS

My father (AIDS!)
My sister (AIDS!)
My uncle and my cousin and her best friend (AIDS AIDS AIDS!)
The gays and the straights
And the white and the spades

Everyone has AIDS!
My grandma and my dog ‘ol blue (AIDS AIDS AIDS)
The pope has got it and so do you (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
C’mon everybody we got quilting to do (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
We gotta break down these baricades, everyone has
AIDS! x 20


9 posted on 06/02/2007 12:42:42 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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Nothing that $30 billion of USA taxpayers money won’t do to fix the African AIDS problem ay World President GW Bush? Most of that $30 billion money will be siphoned off by the corrupt African leaders anyway, right Mr Kofi Annan? And the IRS hounds us for every penny it can milk out of us. The federal govt. collects over $3 trillion dollars a year from us all and throws it down the sewers. Politicians disgust me endlessly!.


10 posted on 06/02/2007 12:42:55 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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Methods of transmission of HIV/AIDS have NOT changed as far as I am aware.
It is not airborne but rather blood borne.
No sharing or needles, no unprotected sex and careful selection of close contacts in one’s inter/intra personal relationships should be the correct manner of staying well.

I for one believe Africa should achieve a “shakeout” and whomsoever get it, gets it.
Whomsoever dies, dies.
Neither the African governmental echelons nor the social leaders appear to take the problem very seriously. So EFF’em. Let them die.
I do NOT want to pay for their ignorance and savage stupidity.

13 posted on 06/02/2007 12:46:24 PM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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Is anyone really surprised to discover that Aid in Africa is just a a giant SCAM?

It is worth noting that the UN uses "computer models" to predict the incidence of AIDS in the population and the annual death toll of this "pandemic". That might sound familiar to the Global Warming folk who use the same technique for the same reason the HIV=AIDS people do, to take money out of your pocket and put it into theirs.

15 posted on 06/02/2007 12:48:52 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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paaaah leez,

“AIDS funding” is just code for bribe money,

bribe money to silence recreational sex fetish activists.

bribe money to silence banana republic politicians.

and

just plain bribes...


16 posted on 06/02/2007 12:49:23 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Recipe for “success”:

1. Grossly inflate statistics about the problem.

2. Spend billions and billions on politically correct programs (no reason to worry about their effectiveness).

3. Report accurate statistics.

4. Declare success.

20 posted on 06/02/2007 12:53:29 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Related article from The Spectator (U.K.) -- 12/13/03:

Africa isn’t dying of Aids

21 posted on 06/02/2007 12:55:01 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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” Foreign aid is when the poor people of a rich country give money to the rich people of a poor country.” Author Unknown


23 posted on 06/02/2007 12:58:15 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Perhaps the exact numbers are off but i’ve been to Africa twice on mission trips and I can assure you that AIDS has spread a ton of human misery on that continent. In some countries average live expectancy is down almost 20 years. Yes the population may be growing in Africa but thats because of an absurdly high birthrate. A lot of folks are dying young over there and the tragedy should not be minimized.


30 posted on 06/02/2007 2:11:54 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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interesting article, some people have been saying this for years:

“For God’s Sake, Please Stop the Aid!”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,druck-363663,00.html


35 posted on 06/02/2007 2:49:32 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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The numbers could be inflated and still be a horrific pandemic of biblical proportions.


37 posted on 06/02/2007 4:07:12 PM PDT by gondramB (No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
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Here's a laugher! AIDs is the biggest most expensive scam ever invented by the homosexuals. What a joke.

1. Since HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS”, it must be abundant in AIDS patients based on “exactly the same criteria as for other viral diseases.”

But, only antibodies against HIV are found in most patients (1–7)**. Therefore, “HIV infection is identified in blood by detecting antibodies, gene sequences, or viral isolation.” But, HIV can only be “isolated” from rare, latently infected lymphocytes that have been cultured for weeks in vitro – away from the antibodies of the human host (8). Thus HIV behaves like a latent passenger virus.

2. Since HIV is “the sole cause of AIDS”, there is no AIDS in HIV-free people.

But, the AIDS literature has described at least 4621 HIVfree AIDS cases according to one survey – irrespective of, or in agreement with allowances made by the CDC for HIV-free AIDS cases (55).

3. The retrovirus HIV causes immunodeficiency by killing T-cells (1–3).

But, retroviruses do not kill cells because they depend on viable cells for the replication of their RNA from viral DNA integrated into cellular DNA (4, 25). Thus, T-cells infected in vitro thrive, and those patented to mass-produce HIV for the detection of HIV antibodies and diag nosis of AIDS are immortal (9–15)!

4. Following “exactly the same criteria as for other viral diseases”, HIV causes AIDS by killing more T-cells than the body can replace. Thus T-cells or “CD4 lymphocytes . . . become depleted in people with AIDS”.

But, even in patients dying from AIDS less than 1 in 500 of the T-cells “that become depleted” are ever infected by HIV (16–20, 54). This rate of infection is the hallmark of a latent passenger virus (21).

5. With an RNA of 9 kilobases, just like polio virus, HIV should be able to cause one specific disease, or no disease if it is a passenger (22).

But, HIV is said to be “the sole cause of AIDS”, or of 26 different immunodeficiency and non-immunodeficiency diseases, all of which also occur without HIV. Thus there is not one HIV-specific disease, which is the definition of a passenger virus!

6. All viruses are most pathogenic prior to anti-viral immunity. Therefore, preemptive immunization with Jennerian vaccines is used to protect against all viral diseases since 1798.

But, AIDS is observed – by definition – only after anti- HIV immunity is established, a positive HIV/AIDS test (23). Thus HIV cannot cause AIDS by “the same criteria” as conventional viruses.

7. HIV needs “5–10 years” from establishing antiviral immunity to cause AIDS.

But, HIV replicates in 1 day, generating over 100 new HIVs per cell (24, 25). Accordingly, HIV is immunogenic, i.e. biochemically most active, within weeks after infection (26, 27). Thus, based on conventional criteria “for other viral disea ses”, HIV should also cause AIDS within weeks – if it could.

8. “Most people with HIV infection show signs of AIDS within 5–10 years” – the justification for prophylaxis of AIDS with the DNA chain terminator AZT (§ 4).

But, of “34×3 million . . . with HIV worldwide” only 1×4% [= 471,457 (obtained by substracting the WHO’s cumulative total of 1999 from that of 2000)] developed AIDS in 2000, and similarly low percentages prevailed in all previous years (28). Likewise, in 1985, only 1×2% of the 1 million US citizens with HIV developed AIDS (29, 30). Since an annual incidence of 1×2–1×4% of all 26 AIDS defining diseases combined is no more than the normal mortality in the US and Europe (life ex pectancy of 75 years), HIV must be a passenger virus.

9. A vaccine against HIV should (“is hoped” to) prevent AIDS – the reason why AIDS researchers try to develop an AIDS vaccine since 1984 (31).

But, despite enormous efforts there is no such vaccine to this day (31). Moreover, since AIDS occurs by definition only in the presence of natural antibodies against HIV (§ 3), and since natural antibodies are so effective that no HIV is detectable in AIDS patients (see No. 1), even the hopes for a vaccine are irrational.

10. HIV, like other viruses, survives by transmission from host to host, which is said to be mediated “through sexual contact”.

But, only 1 in 1000 unprotected sexual contacts transmits HIV (32–34), and only 1 of 275 US citizens is HIV-infected (29, 30), (figure 1b). Therefore, an average un-infected US citizen needs 275,000 random “sexual contacts” to get infected and spread HIV – an unlikely basis for an epidemic!

11. “AIDS spreads by infection” of HIV. But, contrary to the spread of AIDS, there is no “spread” of HIV in the US. In the US HIV infections have remained constant at 1 million from 1985 (29) until now (30), (see also The Durban Declaration and figure 1b). By contrast, AIDS has increased from 1981 until 1992 and has declined ever since (figure 1a).

12. Many of the 3 million people who annually receive blood transfusions in the US for life-threatening diseases (51), should have developed AIDS from HIV-infected blood donors prior to the elimination of HIV from the blood supply in 1985.

But there was no increase in AIDS-defining diseases in HIV-positive transfusion recipients in the AIDS era (52), and no AIDS-defining Kaposi’s sarcoma has ever been observed in millions of transfusion recipients (53).

13. Doctors are at high risk to contract AIDS from patients, HIV researchers from virus preparations, wives of HIV-positive hemophiliacs from husbands, and prostitutes from clients – particularly since there is no HIV vaccine.

But, in the peer-reviewed literature there is not one doctor or nurse who has ever contracted AIDS (not just HIV) from the over 816,000 AIDS patients recorded in the US in 22 years (30). Not one of over ten thousand HIV researchers has contracted AIDS. Wives of hemophiliacs do not get AIDS (35). And there is no AIDS-epidemic in prostitutes (36–38). Thus AIDS is not contagious (39, 40).

14. Viral AIDS – like all viral/microbial epidemics in the past (41–43) – should spread randomly in a population.

But, in the US and Europe AIDS is restricted since 1981 to two main risk groups, intravenous drug users and male homosexual drug users (§ 1 and 4).

15. A viral AIDS epidemic should form a classical, bell-shaped chronological curve (41–43), rising exponentially via virus spread and declining exponentially via natural immunity, within months (see figure 3a).

But, AIDS has been increasing slowly since 1981 for 12 years and is now declining since 1993 (figure 1a), just like a lifestyle epidemic, as for example lung cancer from smoking (figure 3b).

16. AIDS should be a pediatric epidemic now, because HIV is transmitted “from mother to infant” at rates of 25–50% (44– 49), and because “34×3 million people worldwide” were already infected in 2000. To reduce the high maternal transmission rate HIV-antibody-positive pregnant mothers are treated with AZT for up to 6 months prior to birth (§ 4).

But, less than 1% of AIDS in the US and Europe is pediatric (30, 50). Thus HIV must be a passenger virus in newborns.

17. “HIV recognizes no social, political or geographic borders” – just like all other viruses.

But, the presumably HIV-caused AIDS epidemics of Africa and of the US and Europe differ both clinically and epidemiologically (§ 1, table 2). The US/European epidemic is highly nonrandom, 80% male and restricted to abnormal risk groups, whereas the African epidemic is random.

38 posted on 06/02/2007 4:18:16 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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Easy indiscriminate sex like a bunch of bonobo monkeys accounts for the high incidence of this disease.


47 posted on 06/03/2007 3:54:02 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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"while there indeed is a worrying prevalence of HIV on the continent - the numbers presented by the UN agency UNAIDS and national health authorities are highly inflated."

Now that's an understatement

Like all the information spewed by the many NGO's under the UN 's roof in regards to any issue, it's either highly inflated of a downright lie, the more dramatic the better so that suckers seeing those info shows will send them more money, so that they can continue driving brand new land rovers, eat fine French foods, and live in 5 star hotels.

50 posted on 06/03/2007 7:16:34 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Remember, we MUST TRUST the UN with our population (control), future energy (control), future medical research and the Internet (control), and future economic (control) because the UN knows all and is NOT influenced by propaganda or bad math. Or criminal blackmail by socialists.

But we MUST trust the UN with our global warming symptoms as well.


53 posted on 06/03/2007 7:34:02 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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