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Damage from climate change may cost Alaska $10 bln
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 5/29/07 | Mica Rosenberg

Posted on 05/29/2007 7:19:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BELIZE CITY (Reuters) - Collapsing bridges, bursting sewer pipes and crumbling roads caused by global warming could cost Alaska up to $10 billion over the next few decades, researchers said.

Atmospheric temperatures in the northernmost U.S. state have risen by more than 3 degrees Fahrenheit (around 2 degrees Celsius) over the past five decades, Peter Larsen, a resource economist at the University of Alaska Anchorage, told a climate change conference in the Central American country of Belize.

Larsen led a study with a team of engineers to calculate how Alaska will cope with the highest temperatures it has experienced in the last 400 years, according to data gathered from ice cores.

"There is a rough magnitude of between $5 and $10 billion of public infrastructure that's vulnerable to climate change just in Alaska," Larsen said on Monday night.

Permanently frozen ground, or permafrost, covers nearly two-thirds of the massive state but buildings, pipelines, roads and bridges crumble as it melts, he said at this week's meeting in Belize of Arctic peoples and tropical islanders who are suffering the worst effects of global warming.

An analysis of close to 20 types of public works in Alaska, from schools to municipal buildings, showed flooding and erosion will increase the burden on state finances.

Regular upkeep until 2080 would cost Alaska between $32 and $56 billion without the extra stresses, said Larsen.

Some coastal areas like the Inupiat village of Shishmaref on a narrow Chukchi Sea barrier island are disappearing as sea levels rise, forcing a $100 million relocation plan.

The temperature is rising in the Arctic regions at more than twice the rate of the rest of the world, according to the 2004 Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, a comprehensive study by scientists from eight nations.

Most scientists say it is very likely that human activities led by burning fossil fuels explain most of the global warming in the past 50 years.

Warming is accentuated in high-latitude regions like Alaska in part because of thinner atmospheres in the polar region, concentrating so-called greenhouse gases, and in part because of the nature of atmospheric currents, say studies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: ak; alaska; alaskaisdoomed; climatechange; damage; doomage; envirohysteria; environment; galblowingram; globalalarmists; globalwarming; goreasm; gorebalism; permafrost; religionofgore; temperature; wearedoomed
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Sea ice floats within the 1002 Area of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in this undated handout photo provided by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Alaska Image Library. Collapsing bridges, bursting sewer pipes and crumbling roads caused by global warming could cost Alaska up to $10 billion over the next few decades, researchers said. (HANDOUT/U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Alaska Image Library/Reuters)


1 posted on 05/29/2007 7:19:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, and if it occurs, global warming will probably save Alaskans more than twice that in energy costs.


2 posted on 05/29/2007 7:20:44 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Yes, They failed to mention the benefits.


3 posted on 05/29/2007 7:23:07 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Yes, They failed to mention the benefits.

YEAH! I wonder how much the damn benefits will cost. /sarc

4 posted on 05/29/2007 7:25:49 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Most scientists say it is very likely that human activities led by burning fossil fuels explain most of the global warming in the past 50 years.

Herr Goebbels nailed it. Repeat a big lie long enough and and often enough and it becomes accepted as fact.

5 posted on 05/29/2007 7:26:33 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: NormsRevenge

So, the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere” could collapse?

Would that be irony enough for ya?


6 posted on 05/29/2007 7:26:55 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: NormsRevenge
"Thinner atmosphere"?

Now that's a new one. Time for some fact checkers to check facts ~ sea level atmospheric pressure is about 14.7 psi worldwide.

Atmospheric pressure drops 1.0 psi for every 2,343 feet increase in altitude.

This village is at sea level. Barring storms it has the same amospheric pressure that might be found on the Chesapeake Bay on any given day.

That is to say the atmosphere is as "thin" in the Arctic as it is "thin" in Washington DC.

I would imagine the writer is under the false impression that as you go North you go higher ~ just like the maps at school showed.

The other erroneous factoids in that piece are equally incredible.

7 posted on 05/29/2007 7:30:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: AlaskaErik

Al Gorebal learned a lot from Goebbels..


8 posted on 05/29/2007 7:31:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

In the 5 previous ice ages (we are in number 6) what caused the ice to melt? Carbon emissions from what? This is the greatest hoax since “we are running out of oil” in 1975. Total crock.


9 posted on 05/29/2007 7:32:04 PM PDT by Dutch Tulip
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To: NormsRevenge
Collapsing bridges, bursting sewer pipes and crumbling roads caused by global warming could cost Alaska up to $10 billion over the next few decades

I thought we only have a decade left before we are all toast? So I think money is a mute point.

10 posted on 05/29/2007 7:33:13 PM PDT by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is the sky falling again?


11 posted on 05/29/2007 7:33:14 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: NormsRevenge
Larsen led a study with a team of engineers to calculate how Alaska will cope with the highest temperatures it has experienced in the last 400 years

So...ahem...what caused the (presumably) higher temperatures 400+ years ago?

The way these Gore"bull" warming toads jigger the statistics is shameful. They must take lessons from politicians and bureaucrats.

12 posted on 05/29/2007 7:33:26 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: NormsRevenge
...but buildings, pipelines, roads and bridges crumble as it [permafrost] melts...

Big deal! Our NH infrastructure freezes and thaws repeatedly every year. It's called Winter and Spring. Water mains in Northeast cities pop. Roads get potholes. Get used to it!

13 posted on 05/29/2007 7:35:23 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Dutch Tulip

Has anyone looked at the benefits of a longer growing season for those living further North? Food production should increase greatly to benefit the masses that are being produced at will in China and the Banana Republics (including Mexico).


14 posted on 05/29/2007 7:35:58 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: NormsRevenge
Atmospheric temperatures in the northernmost U.S. state have risen by more than 3 degrees Fahrenheit (around 2 degrees Celsius) over the past five decades...

So it's time to build beach-front condos in Nome?

15 posted on 05/29/2007 7:36:18 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: vetvetdoug

Yeah, to think, Greenland might even become......er......uh......green.


16 posted on 05/29/2007 7:37:34 PM PDT by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Collapsing bridges, bursting sewer pipes and crumbling roads caused by global warming could cost Alaska up to $10 billion over the next few decades, researchers said.

Sort of depends on what a "few" means.

17 posted on 05/29/2007 7:41:31 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: NormsRevenge
Collapsing bridges, bursting sewer pipes and crumbling roads caused by global warming

Holy Cats! It sounds like the sun is on a jihad!

18 posted on 05/29/2007 7:44:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NormsRevenge
I was in Juneau Alaska 2 weeks ago. The locals are still talking about this year's RECORD 16 feet of snow which broke a 40 year old record.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

The snow had only been off the front yard at this lodge for 3 weeks by the 15th of May.

19 posted on 05/29/2007 7:44:33 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: AlaskaErik
The past 50 years? ... I gotcha' past 50 years right HERE, jagoff !
20 posted on 05/29/2007 7:47:12 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: NormsRevenge

As long as they’re making up numbers, why not make it $471bn?


21 posted on 05/29/2007 7:47:24 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: NormsRevenge
This calls for................


22 posted on 05/29/2007 7:48:55 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, I grew up in Minnesota. I've pulled for global warming all my life. The winter just ended was, by no means, the warmest I can recall. It wasn't the coldest, either. In other words, it resembled most winters.

When all is done and said, I s'pect the weather on the sun determines what happens temperature-wise hereabouts.

23 posted on 05/29/2007 7:49:15 PM PDT by stevem
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To: vetvetdoug

excellent point!! “longer growing seasons” and lower heating costs. The only problem is that it is all a lie. This was a horribly cold winter and this spring has been very much cooler than last. We all know that this is anti-capitalist propaganda designed to instill an anti-God secularist view on our dumbed down population. The measured increment in world wide temperatures is estimated to be .97 degrees F per hundred years!! It is estimated because half the world had no temperature measurement worth a damn a hundred years ago. Be sure and make no change to anything on this crap data they never even tell you. Get some damned refineries built or suffer RIOTS!!!


24 posted on 05/29/2007 7:51:12 PM PDT by Dutch Tulip
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To: NormsRevenge
PROBLEM:Some coastal areas like the Inupiat village of Shishmaref on a narrow Chukchi Sea barrier island are disappearing as sea levels rise

SOLUTION:

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25 posted on 05/29/2007 7:51:40 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: NormsRevenge
They made it up on the NJVC bill by Ted Stevens already.

NJVC

26 posted on 05/29/2007 7:54:36 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: Bernard Marx

“The way these Gore”bull” warming toads jigger the statistics is shameful. They must take lessons from politicians and bureaucrats.”

LOL!!

B U M P


27 posted on 05/29/2007 7:58:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: bikerMD

ROTFLOL!!


28 posted on 05/29/2007 7:59:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Bernard Marx
The way these Gore"bull" warming toads jigger the statistics is shameful.

We may have a winner here.

Gorebull warming !
29 posted on 05/29/2007 8:02:54 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: AlaskaErik
I was just about to jump on that whopper when I read your post.

That is an outrageous lie. Most scientists do not believe that. If they are true scientists they will say they do not know how much is anthropogenically derived.

Plus, their solution will be to spend several billion to try and turn the tide. No guarantees. Global Warming hysteria is the 21st Century’s version of Y2K. Cui bono?

30 posted on 05/29/2007 8:09:00 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: FairWitness

FORGET PHOENIX!!

I’m packin for a condo in Anchorage.


31 posted on 05/29/2007 8:09:09 PM PDT by petertare (--)
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To: NormsRevenge

Didn`t Alaska just have a very cold winter?


32 posted on 05/29/2007 8:11:58 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: muawiyah

HEY! Mica is a reporter, what do facts have to do with anything?


33 posted on 05/29/2007 8:14:51 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hysterical rubbish from predictable sources of utter nonsense aiding and abetting the larcenous criminals in third world countries seeking to rob the developed countries of the world with blackmail.

Note well the advocates and supporters of this sham.


34 posted on 05/29/2007 8:16:40 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: NormsRevenge
Only 10 Billion, hell we are looking at 2 Trillion in cost for immigration.
35 posted on 05/29/2007 8:17:23 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Always Right
Yeah, and if it occurs, global warming will probably save Alaskans more than twice that in energy costs..

And the revenue from increased yields on their crops.

5.56mm

36 posted on 05/29/2007 8:21:18 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: neverhillorat

—HEY! Mica is a reporter, what do facts have to do with anything?—

Fact: mica is not a reporter, but a sheet silicate group that includes phlogopite, biotite, and muscovite.


37 posted on 05/29/2007 8:34:57 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: rfp1234

Ms. Rosenberg will be suprised, she thought Mica was a gem.


38 posted on 05/29/2007 8:50:18 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: bikerMD
Looks like the dog fainted from the heat.
39 posted on 05/29/2007 10:38:12 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: muawiyah
The atmosphere is thinner wrt to thickness, not density. Due to earth's rotation the atmospheric mantle flattens at the poles. Look at a picture of Jupiter - its high rotational speed produces a much higher diameter at the equator than from pole to pole.

For the atmospheric pressure to remain the same, the air layers will have to be denser in order to compensate for the lack in thickness. Any gas, greenhouse or not, will thus exist at a higher concentration.

That's actually only one effect. There are Coriolis forces, seasonal changes related to temperature, and other effects. But that'll have to be another day.
40 posted on 05/29/2007 11:03:56 PM PDT by drtom
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To: drtom

Nothing like precision in language eh.


41 posted on 05/30/2007 3:33:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NormsRevenge

Collapsing bridges, bursting sewer pipes and crumbling roads caused by SLOPPY WORKMANSHIP by contractors.


42 posted on 05/30/2007 4:04:15 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: drtom
Yet, several references on the internet point to what they identify as the "homosphere" being uniformly mixed (and that takes us up to 50 miles, and involves something like 98% of the atmosphere by mass), with differentiation not occuring until we get to the "heterosphere". Ergo, the claims of the writer concerning "concentrations" are essentially meaningless.

We must note at this juncture that none of this occurs except in the presence of a strato-cumulus fornicatus, and then only rarely.

43 posted on 05/30/2007 4:13:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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More horsepucky
44 posted on 05/30/2007 5:21:33 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Looks like the dog fainted from the heat

I don't think so Newt. It was in the low 40's that day.

45 posted on 05/30/2007 5:27:35 AM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: rfp1234

LOL!


46 posted on 05/30/2007 5:27:40 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: RetSignman

No, if the permafrost were to melt, those failures would not because of SLOPPY WORKMANSHIP, as you are trying to lay blame. It would be bcause the support for said strucures was insufficient.

You may have noticed on the Alaska Pipeline sections that run through permafrost have little cooling towers on each support to maintain the frost. You can se them in the upper ight of this picture: http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/30/alaska_pipeline_T1848.jpg

Rarely are situations like this the result of SLOPPY WORKMANSHIP as the ignorant like to claim, but aging structures and forces not accounted for in the design of the structure.

Have a nice day. Oh yeah, I do not believe Al Gore and his bunch of liars when it comes to globull wrrming, or any matter.


47 posted on 05/30/2007 5:34:10 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: randog

They may not be technically condos but people do live on the beach in Nome. Many still look for gold, myself I live just north of Anchorage and all I see is booming construction for locals if indeed we have a warming crisis but I don’t see it here, unfortunately I am in the construction industry and its really slow this year so I am hoping there will be a demand in the future. Alaskans hire Alaskans.

I would LOVE to see it warmer by 30 degrees in the winter. Our last winter was colder and longer, NOT warmer, I still have to wear thermal underwear in the summer, and stupid Walmart refuses to stock it until mid december.


48 posted on 05/30/2007 5:36:37 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: NormsRevenge

Look, if global warming does occur then we won’t need to burn as much fuel to heat our homes. If the whole concept weren’t such a big pile of horse hockey, it would be a self limiting process.


49 posted on 05/30/2007 5:44:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Clam Digger

WOW, don’t have a coronary there. I was putting forth another possible scenario other than ‘globull wrrming’ which the left is always looking for.

I didn’t even mention the pipeline but I did click on that website you provided but I didn’t know where to se the upper ight.

Thanks anyhow.


50 posted on 05/30/2007 5:54:06 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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