Posted on 05/29/2007 6:07:21 PM PDT by LdSentinal
I hope this is true. The more it is delayed the less chance it will pass.
One of the things talk radio has been screaming about is that the back taxes provision was removed from the bill.
FWIW - I do hope it fails miserably. I think that if this abomination passes that first, the Republican Party will disintegrate. After some time chaos will overcome this land. The final result will be a wrenching and brutal hard right turn and then katy bar the door. This nation will be mad and it will be bloody - and I mean rivers of blood.
Come to think of it, its always up to 'conservatives' to pull the Grand Ol' Party's fat arse outta the fire.
It'd be nice to get a little respect every once in awhile in exchange.
Comprehensive Abomination
Harry Reid is a POS.
Smart move and hopefully they can reform the bill to take the “road to citizenship” away from illegal immigrants.
STOP IT. Any way you can. It sucks. President Bush has lost his mind over illegals. Let him look for a lageacy elsewhere. We dont need to deatroy our country with these people If this bill is passed there will be no stopping all of Mexico from entering.
We're supposed to march lockstep behind King George, you know.
Can’t the Hill be fined by Senate Democrats for not using the approved ‘undocumented workers’ tag instead of the more appropriate ‘illegal immigrants’? Least one media outlet still tells it somewhat like it is. Illegal freeloaders, however, is still my favorite.
Do it.
And so it IS!!! (there's that favorite Bill Clinton word again)
And people who back this amnesty POS should be given a “pink slip.”
Let's take this apart.
and safe harbor for the 12 million individuals in the country illegally
This is a new meme. It must be the spin on the Z Visa issue. The disinfo first was about "path to citizenship" without mentioning the Z Visas. Z Visas essentially legalize anyone who says they've been here 6 months. This is much worse than last year's bill. Since "the people" know what the Z Visa set up is, the spinmeisters have developed a defensive meme to define it: "safe harbor" relating postive senses of safety and protection. We will here more "safe harbor" descriptions about the Z Visas in the future I expect.
delicate balance
There is no balance, it's worse than last year's bill. Border security laws have been passed before without Amnesty+.
new merit-based visas
This is new, and played as a "conservative" matter. Really it isn't particularly, most advanced countries like Canada do this. Anyway, it will never be realized and is set for some indeterminate date in the future.
This is a very interesting topic. In fact the McCain amendment (1190) makes former illegals liable for back taxes only if they get a green card.
This is what I don’t understand though: The House has its own amnesty bill (Flake/Gutierrez), so if the Senate merges its bill with that bill, can they still make that rule about “revenue bills must originate from the House” stick?
It seems to me that this was tried last year, and lost.
I recall it was because the House didn’t vote on last year’s Senate bill, but had it’s own bill to forward and “compromise” in “conference committee.”
If I’m correct, Flake might be signaling he will part of the ploy by offereing his bill in this role.
These two solid conservatives are running for the presidency, yet almost all attention is instead lavished upon big-government faux-conservative frauds. Is it that so many people want milquetoast quasi-liberal redux, or is it simply a case of mass ignorance/mass stupidity?
Or is it the "vote for who can best triangulate in the general" mentality (worked great for Kerry!) that would have relegated RR to the "too conservative to win" pile and nominated Ford in '76 and (Rockefeller loser) John B. Anderson in '80?
Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It! Blue-slip-It!
Having been as staunch a supporter of the President as I have been throughout the war on terror and Iraq. . .it is just about heart-breaking to hear him talk today in terms that are disrespectful, arrogant and insulting to those who have been four-square behind him. . .
Said the President:
“Those determined to find fault with this bill will always be able to look at a narrow slice of it and find something that they don’t like. If you want to kill the bill, if you don’t want to do whats right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it. You can use it to frighten people. Or you can show leadership and solve the problem once and for all.”
it is very hard to hear President Bush come down so abysmally and unfairly upon the only real supporters he has had while the rest of the world has pounded him into mush.
But his virtual condemnation of conservatives who are truly concerned for the safety and future of this country. . .and to be labelled as people who “don’t want to do what’s right for America” - just because we find it impossible to wrap our minds around his incomprehensible desire to welcome with open arms and open borders 12-20 million criminals with no respect for our laws. . .
Well, let’s just say, it is extremely fortunate that it is not now the Fall of 2004, or George Bush probably would not have been re-elected.
But the rest of the bunch of latently-moronic Republicans in the Senate (and in the House if it gets that far, God forbid. . .) will become political toast if they don’t start listening to us real soon. . .
sr
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