Posted on 05/26/2007 5:48:02 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
Woman minister re-appointed – as a man 'Who am I? I AM…' minister says after sex change procedure
Posted: May 26, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
A woman who has served as minister at St. John's United Methodist Church in Baltimore for five years has been re-appointed to the position – as a man, according to church officials.
The announcement came at the Baltimore-Washington annual conference of the UMC, where the former Ann Gordon announced the change to Drew Phoenix, and talked of a "spiritual transformation" since the sex change procedure.
The move was not without challenge. Some ministers asked for a "ruling of law," a move which automatically takes the issue to the church organization's highest court, the Judicial Council, which will be meeting next in October.
The church denomination "officially" disapproves of homosexual behavior, but has no explicit policy regarding sexual identity changes or sex change operations, officials said. Gordon/Phoenix' congregation is among those that support what the members call the "reconciling" movement within the church, and campaigns to reject the church's traditional biblical teachings on marriage and sexual ethics.
Mark Tooley, director of the UMAction, a part of the Institution on Religion and Democracy, said gender, however, isn't a choice but a reality. "The church's calling is to facilitate healing, not echo the secular culture's mantras about 'diversity,'" he said.
The church's website notes that the group is inclusive and diverse.
"We embrace our differences as holy expressions of God's inclusive love for all creation. Our diversity reflects the many facets of God's creation in our age, gender identity, sexual orientation, race, ethnic and cultural backgrounds, socioeconomic status, work and educational experience, physical and mental abilities, and spiritual needs," the statement said. "Different though we are, we share a faith in a creative Spirit that urges us toward maturity, wisdom, responsibility."
Tooley said the decision announced by Bishop John Schol should trigger a full evaluation of the Bible's teachings. "UM Action is calling for legislation at the 2008 General Conference of The United Methodist Church to fully address the issue of sexual identity change," he said. "The decision to reappoint the former Rev. Gordon to St. John's church in Baltimore, with no wider discussion in the church, sets a troubling precedent."
St. John's Methodist Church, where the woman pastor has been reappointed to the post – as a man
He said it's happening again that the "liberal church elites, presiding over dwindling churches, are making decisions without regard for historic Christian teaching or a wider consensus among the church's membership."
The issue raises all sorts of questions that have to be answered, Tooley noted. Even a report on a Baltimore radio station identified the minister as 'his/her former name was Ann Gordon…"
"We hope The United Methodist Church will act, where the leadership of the Baltimore-Washington Conference has failed, by establishing clear ethical and theological guidelines about the role of gender..." Tooley said.
He explained that the sex change case is a modern repetition of an ancient heresy, gnosticism, in which one's private feelings and thoughts overrule church teachings.
In a statement on the conference website, Gordon/Phoenix explained that the change was to reflect "my true gender identity."
"My transition to live fully as the male I know myself to be is very personal and deeply spiritual. As a Christian, I worship God – I AM. People frequently asked Jesus, 'Who are you?' His response was, 'Who do you say I am?' 'Who do YOU say YOU are?' I believe that our spiritual path is, in great part, the answer to: Who am I? I am..." said the statement.
"The gender I was assigned at birth has never matched my own true, authentic, God-given gender identity … how I know myself," the statement said. "Fortunately, today, God's gift of medical science is enabling me to bring my physical body into alignment with my true gender."
But Tooley said Christianity "rejects the suggestion that sexual identity is merely a state of mind or a preference."
"Gender and physicality, in Christian and Jewish teaching, are intrinsically linked to God's order of creation, as first described in Genesis," he said. "The God whom we worship knew us as male or female before He created us. Gender is not a choice but a reality."
The IRD said the last such case to come up was in 2002. That was when Rev. Richard Simoztny had a sex change operation and became Rebecca Steen. That minister soon left the ministry in the UMC.
It's the second controversy to come out of the UMC in just a little over a week. Earlier, as WND reported, one leader in the UMC equated the U.S. flag to the Nazi swastika.
The comments came from Rev. Clayton Childers, of the Washington-based United Methodist Board of Church and Society, who said, "The presence of a national flag in worship can imply endorsement of national policies which often run counter to the teachings of Jesus Christ and our Christian faith. … One need only recall the way the swastika flag was displayed prominently in German churches during the Nazi era."
He was discussing on the organization's website the propriety of having Old Glory in Christian churches, but his condemnation drew the ire of Tooley.
"Unlike the blood-soaked swastika flags that the Nazis forced upon German churches, American churches voluntarily display their country's flag as a reminder of the country in which God has providentially placed them," Tooley said. "Typically, American flags stand against the side walls of American churches, quietly and [un]obtrusively. They are hardly the idolatrous object of imperialistic worship against which the United Methodist lobby official warned."
SICK!
“The gender I was assigned at birth has never matched my own true, authentic, God-given gender identity ... Fortunately, today, God’s gift of medical science is enabling me to bring my physical body into alignment with my true gender.”
I see, so God made you a woman, but intended for you to be a man, so you’ve mutilated yourself?
Isn't this merely saying...
HEY GOD... YOU MADE A MISTAKE?!?
But don't worry... the wisdom of the world has fixed it/me?!?
Scary stuff to answer for...
....On the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord!
still has the same xx chromosones she was born with... still female really
Do you suppose Hillary will be there for the installation of this freak? The UMC is her chosen denomination. I’m sure she would be just as open, affirming and accepting as anyone could be.
I dont know much about the Addadictome operation.
Do you get a choice of size? length?
Does it get erect or just hang there?
Will Viagra react with it ? or is it merely impotent.
Other than allowing a woman to stand and aim it at a urinal now. What good is it?
What do they do for testicles, and semen?
I imagine its easy to attach a bag,but what do they fill it with?
Which side do ex-women decide to carry this new load on?
Inquiring minds want to know,and indeed here are some answers. http://www.srsmiami.com/photography-f2m.html
You know, to the feminists the only good man is a woman who has had sex change surgery.
Jesus was saying that he was God. Is this ..... person claiming the same?
Nonsense. There is no such thing as a sex change. A person can add or remove tissue and put lipstick on or grow a mustache, but it doesn’t change a person’s sex. That is determined at conception.
When a clergy person (Or is that a person of clergy?) speaks in a vague "spiritual" blather, you can predict the stand that he/she/it will have on any issue. Any time someone says something like, "I believe in a spiritual Being or Force that is moving us to greater levels of diversity..." you just know all you need to know about the "religion" that person represents.
[”We embrace our differences as holy expressions of God’s inclusive love for all creation. Our diversity reflects the many facets of God’s creation in our age, gender identity, sexual orientation, race, ethnic and cultural backgrounds, socioeconomic status, work and educational experience, physical and mental abilities, and spiritual needs,” the statement said. “Different though we are, we share a faith in a creative Spirit that urges us toward maturity, wisdom, responsibility.”]
The Methodist’s are biblically apostate Christiananity and are but an extension of the Satanic left who deny the Word of God, that is, Jesus Christ came in the flesh (God with us) and died for our sins and rose again the third day that we who believe Him might be saved.
The methodist movement is but another anti christ movement controlled by the murderers and liars of the liberal left God haters.
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'Who am I? I AM…' confused!
“The gender I was assigned...”
1. Just who “assigns” genders? Some government agency?
2. The passive voice is the voice of a liar 90% of the time.
Later pingout. As long as my computer doesn’t rebel against me.
“an extension of the satanic left”
And a major source of false prophets.
Look at the size of his/her Adam’s Apple. I’ve never seen one quite like that.
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