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Opposition to U.S. immigration bill intensifies (Jim Bunning a good guy; plus, his perfect game)
in.today.reuters.com ^ | 5-22-07 | Donna Smith

Posted on 05/21/2007 8:26:18 PM PDT by doug from upland

Opposition to U.S. immigration bill intensifies
Tue May 22, 2007 8:14 AM IST

By Donna Smith

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Opposition to a compromise immigration overhaul grew on Monday, with labor unions and Hispanic groups saying the deal brokered by leading U.S. senators and the White House was bad for workers, families and employers.

The League of United Latin American Citizens, one of the country's oldest and largest Hispanic groups, said it opposed the plan's limits on family-based immigration. A labor union and another Hispanic group said they would work to change the proposed law as it moves through Congress.

The opposition emerged as the Senate began debating the compromise plan, brokered in closed-door talks between White House officials and about a dozen Republican and Democratic senators.

President George W. Bush, said in an interview with Reuters he would ask that opponents actually read the bill before offering opinions on its content.

"There's no question this is an emotional debate. But people have to realize that in order to have border security, you must have a comprehensive approach to immigration reform," Bush said.

He said the compromise "was a very serious effort to bridge a wide gulf that had existed in the Senate."

The measure would combine tough new border security and workplace enforcement measures with a temporary worker program and a plan to legalize an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the country before January 2007.

In addition to limits on family-based immigration, the citizens league said it also opposed the temporary worker program because it would require laborers to return home for a year after each two-year work period. Temporary workers would be allowed a total of three two-year visas.

"This bill will dehumanize workers, short-change employers and lead to widespread undocumented immigration as many workers inevitably overstay their visas rather than return home," the group's president, Rosa Rosales, said in a statement.

The AFL-CIO plans a news conference on Tuesday with civil rights and Hispanic groups to outline their concerns about the guest worker program, new limits on family-based immigration and a proposed new merit-based system for future immigrants.

REDUCING TEMPORARY WORKERS

The Service Employees International Union plans to join that news conference, but officials said they hoped to work with lawmakers to change the bill as it moves through the Senate and eventually the House of Representatives.

Eliseo Medina, executive vice president of the SEIU, said requiring immigrants to return home to apply for permanent residence was unworkable. The union, which has about 1.8 million members, also wants more labor protections for guest workers and a path to citizenship.

"We are going to be evaluating every step of the way and at some point we will see what the final package looks like," he said in an interview.

National Council of La Raza Vice President Cecilia Munoz said her group would try to reshape the bill. "It is important that we get a good bill over the finish line," she said.

Dozens of amendments are expected and it is unclear whether the compromise will remain intact as it works its way through the Senate.

One of the first amendments will be aimed at reducing the number of visas available for temporary workers each year from 400,000 to 200,000. The amendment is being offered by Sen. Jeff Bingaman, a New Mexico Democrat.

The bill also faces stiff opposition from conservative Republicans who see it as an amnesty that rewards illegal immigrants who broke U.S. laws.

"This bill is compromising to the country's economy, national security and very foundation of a democracy rooted in the rule of law," said Sen. Jim Bunning, a Kentucky Republican.

"Each low-skilled immigrant household that gets amnesty costs the American taxpayers nearly $20,000 each year if we consider only the illegal aliens given amnesty," he said.

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Jim Bunning Perfect Game Box Score

Jim Bunning, a father of seven children at the time, pitched the best game of his career on the best day he could imagine — Father's Day.

"It was a great play (a hard hit shot to Tony Taylor). When he did that, I knew I had something special." - Jim Bunning
Jim Bunning Perfect Game Box Score

Jim Bunning

June 21, 1964 at Shea Stadium

Hitting & Fielding Notes

Philadelphia Phillies
NAME POS AB R H RBI
John Briggs cf 4 1 0 0
John Herrnstein 1b 4 0 0 0
Johnny Callison rf 4 1 2 1
Dick Allen 3b 3 0 1 1
Wes Covington lf 2 0 0 0
   Bobby Wine pr-ss 1 1 0 0
Tony Taylor 2b 3 2 1 0
Cookie Rojas ss-lf 3 0 1 0
Gus Triandos c 4 1 2 2
Jim Bunning p 4 0 1 2
TOTALS 32 6 8 6

 

New York Mets
NAME POS AB R H RBI
Jim Hickman cf 3 0 0 0
Ron Hunt 2b 3 0 0 0
Ed Kranepool 1b 3 0 0 0
Joe Christopher rf 3 0 0 0
Jesse Gonder c 3 0 0 0
Hawk Taylor lf 3 0 0 0
Charley Smith ss 3 0 0 0
Amado Samuel 3b 2 0 0 0
   George Altman ph 1 0 0 0
Tracy Stallard p 1 0 0 0
   Bill Wakefield p 0 0 0 0
   Rod Kanehl ph 1 0 0 0
   Tom Sturdivant p 0 0 0 0
   John Stephenson ph 1 0 0 0
TOTALS 27 0 0 0

Caught Stealing: Rojas.
Doubles
: Triandos, Bunning.
Home Runs: Callison.
Left On Base
: Philadelphia 5.
Sacrifice: Herrnstein, Rojas.

Line Score
Team 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E

Philadelphia

1 1 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 6 8 0

New York

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pitching Notes

Philadelphia Phillies
NAME IP H R ER BB SO
Jim Bunning 9.0 0 0 0 0 10

 

New York Mets
NAME IP H R ER BB SO
Tracy Stallard 5.2 7 6 6 4 3
   Bill Wakefield 0.1 0 0 0 0 0
   Tom Sturdivant 3.0 1 0 0 0 3

Losing Pitcher: Stallard (4-9).
Winning Pitcher
: Bunning (7-2).

Wild Pitch: Stallard.

Game Notes
Attendance: 32,026.
Length of Game: 2:19.
Umpires: HP: Ed Sudol, 1B: Paul Pryor, 2B: Frank Secory, 3B: Ken Burkhart.

Jim Bunning Perfect Game Box Score



In the ninth inning, Jim Bunning called his catcher, Gus Triandos, to the mound. What did they talk about? Triandos stated after the game, "He said I should tell him a joke, just to get a breather. I couldn't think of anything. I just laughed at him."

Did you know that Jim Bunning threw ninety pitches of which seventy-nine went for strikes during this perfect game?

What did Jim Bunning do immediately after the game was over? He appeared that same night on the Ed Sullivan Show.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; buildthefence; bunning; deathofamerica; deportthem; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration
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1 posted on 05/21/2007 8:26:24 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Nobody cares about gulfs in the Senate, braintrust, only about the gulf between the law and reality.
2 posted on 05/21/2007 8:29:00 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: doug from upland

“...lead to widespread undocumented immigration as many workers inevitably overstay their visas rather than return home,” the group’s president, Rosa Rosales, said in a statement.”

And this would be different from the current situation, how, exactly, Ms. Rosales?


3 posted on 05/21/2007 8:32:57 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron
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To: doug from upland

This opposition is not from sensible citizen groups of American Citizens. The opposition is from the Unions, LaRaza (racist latino group) and the League of Latin Americans.

My supposition here is that they are opposed because they want completely open borders without consequences to illegals, to employers who hire illegals, and stopping border enforcement.

This opposition, my friends, is for the wrong reasons.
Anyone who aligns themselves with those groups is an underminer of American sovergnity.
Not sure what the take of Bunning is on these groups. But using his name in relation to those groups make it look like he is aligned with them in his opposition.
Can it be true?


4 posted on 05/21/2007 8:35:37 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: doug from upland
“There’s no question this is an emotional debate. But people have to realize that in order to have border security, you must have a comprehensive approach to immigration reform,” Bush said.
He said the compromise “was a very serious effort to bridge a wide gulf that had existed in the Senate.”

Both POTUS and our various states elected legislators now believe constitutional law is “fungible”.

WRONG!

5 posted on 05/21/2007 8:36:58 PM PDT by sarasmom ( The cover of my "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" is now flashing "Panic".)
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To: doug from upland

Build the fence. First.

Then a lot of people will be ready for generosity.

But right now, we’ve all seen nobody enforces any new laws anyway, so this is just a big giant sham AMNESTY bill.

It’s not fooling anyone. Yet Bush and Martinez think somehow, we’re on board with this?

BUILD THE DARN FENCE.

Why is that so difficult to understand??


6 posted on 05/21/2007 8:39:51 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (D is for Defeatism. R is for Reconquista.)
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To: doug from upland
President George W. Bush, said in an interview with Reuters he would ask that opponents actually read the bill before offering opinions on its content.

I doubt if the dufus, jorge, read it himself. Since the whole thing is a lie built upon lies.

7 posted on 05/21/2007 8:42:43 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: o_zarkman44

THIS IS PRETTY GOOD FROM BUNNING

“This bill is compromising to the country’s economy, national security and very foundation of a democracy rooted in the rule of law,” said Sen. Jim Bunning, a Kentucky Republican.

“Each low-skilled immigrant household that gets amnesty costs the American taxpayers nearly $20,000 each year if we consider only the illegal aliens given amnesty,” he said.


8 posted on 05/21/2007 8:46:04 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

Getting ready to throw the unions off the bus...


9 posted on 05/21/2007 8:54:53 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: doug from upland
"There's no question this is an emotional debate. But people have to realize that in order to have border security, you must have a comprehensive approach to immigration reform," Bush said.

Why?
10 posted on 05/21/2007 8:55:58 PM PDT by goldfinch (American citizens, just paying the taxes illegals don't have to pay.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

The Dems plan is to unionize them and have millions more union members. Their power will then be unstoppable.


11 posted on 05/21/2007 8:56:53 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I have volunteered and campaigned for Jim Bunning in the past. He is a very good man & I feel lucky to have him as one of my Senators. McConnell too.


12 posted on 05/21/2007 8:58:28 PM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: doug from upland

Illegal is illegal; illegal means breaking the law.
Those that break the law get deported.

According to immigrationCounters.com, here are some of the realities that Flake-Gutierrez Bill would airbrush out of the picture:

Number of Illegal Aliens in the Country
20,807,645

Money Wired to Mexico City since January, 2006
$22,213,001,672.00

Cost of Social Security Services for Illegal Aliens since 1996
$397,450,739,563.00

Number of Children of Illegal Aliens in Public Schools
3,958,789

Cost of Illegal Aliens in K-12 Since 1996:
$13, 965,063,431.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Incarcerated
332,594

Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001
$1,398,127,429.00

Number of Illegal Aliens Fugitives
642,799

Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Aliens
9,872,838

Figures can trick your eyes.
Take particular note that items 2,3,5, and 7 reflect BILLION not millions of dollars —
and that item 3 exceeds one-third of a TRILLION dollars.
Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of Illegals entering this country!!


13 posted on 05/21/2007 8:58:52 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: doug from upland
"This bill is compromising to the country's economy, national security and very foundation of a democracy rooted in the rule of law," said Sen. Jim Bunning, a Kentucky Republican.

I remember Jim Bunning's perfect game. I had no idea he was a Senator.
14 posted on 05/21/2007 9:00:10 PM PDT by goldfinch (American citizens, just paying the taxes illegals don't have to pay.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000


15 posted on 05/21/2007 9:05:57 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: doug from upland

“The League of United Latin American Citizens, one of the country’s oldest and largest Hispanic groups”

I guess that makes them “respectable”


16 posted on 05/21/2007 9:06:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: o_zarkman44
The bill also faces stiff opposition from conservative Not sure what the take of Bunning is on these groups. But using his name in relation to those groups make it look like he is aligned with them in his opposition. Can it be true?

The line before the Bunning quote makes it crystal clear that Bunning is commenting from the side of Republican opposition...not the Left Wing opposition groups. It reads like this:

Republicans who see it as an amnesty that rewards illegal immigrants who broke U.S. laws.

"This bill is compromising to the country's economy, national security and very foundation of a democracy rooted in the rule of law," said Sen. Jim Bunning, a Kentucky Republican.

17 posted on 05/21/2007 9:09:14 PM PDT by goldfinch (American citizens, just paying the taxes illegals don't have to pay.)
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To: devolve; PhilDragoo

Yep, they shook hands and sealed some deals, who knows what all. But Fox is gone and Bush will be before long.


18 posted on 05/21/2007 9:09:43 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_)
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To: doug from upland
The measure would... legalize an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the country before January 2007.

oops! isn't it too late for that?

19 posted on 05/21/2007 9:12:45 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: goldfinch

I re-read the article and realized the conservative opposition was minimized compared to the radical left’s bantering.
Thanks for the correction.


20 posted on 05/21/2007 9:13:30 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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