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Thanks for your input, but your rhetoric gave no concrete answer, unless you were round-a-boutly referring to Israel's wall. If that is the case, I couldn't agree with you more.

Well, it first appeared that you were talking about what the people, themselves would do. In other words, since you put it down to the level of -- "children, friends, loved ones" -- that this was talking about on an individual "one person" level. And in that question (if it was on the level of just one person), then the answer was precisely to see how the Israelis handle it, on the level of that one person, when it's their "children, friends, loved ones" that just got blown up.

For example, I see that they have outlying communities that may be surrounded by Muslims, on all sides, and they may get attacked or something may happen to one of those people that they know on a bus that got blown up. But, I never hear about Israelis, in some community, taking their guns, going in a group and then heading down to the nearest Muslim village and shooting up that village. I just don't hear that kind of thing going on at all.

You hear about some Israeli (or a soldier) that may have gotten turned around and lost and gotten into an area of Palestinians, and they get killed. But, if a Palestinian gets lost in an Israeli village or on the Israeli side of the border, you don't hear about that Palestinian getting killed.

It's never the Israelis, individually, as a single citizen or a group of citizens that go out and hunt for Palestinians to kill. It does happen the other way around though.

So, when you asked what if it was your friends, etc -- that meant to me, it was a question directed to one single person and what that one single person would do -- and all those "single persons" would do, if there were several that were killed. And so, that's why I referenced what the Israelis did, as single individuals, when faced with this kind of murder of the people they knew directly. They never did take out after any of the Muslims. They just never did it.

I don't think the Israelis are any better than the Americans, but perhaps some here would like to prove me wrong and say, yes indeed the Israelis are better than the Americans and the American would indeed start hunting down Muslims. I don't know, maybe the Israelis are better than us...

Now, as I said before, in the last post, the issue of what the government would do, is a completely different issue than what a single individual would do in those circumstances. The government has different things to consider. So, while individual people would not "build a wall" the government might do that. Whether they actually would or not is really another story, depending on the politics of the matter. And perhaps the politics would make it impossible for the government to do so.

I, as others, watched for years the pali-shitheads blow up cafes, busses, market-placeses, etc. for years after Arafat declared his "intifada" after getting only 97% of his demands at the Camp David Accords.

Now, the interesting thing about this thing when you talk about seeing what the Palestinians do, as compared to what the Israelis do -- it's totally different from one another. And I'm going to make a comparison with another area of the world, in a minute. So, we see that the Israelis do not respond on an "individual level" like the Palestinians do. The Palestinians will individually group together in a mob and actually get quite violent and kill Israelis. They've done it, before and they'll do it again, if given the chance. The Israelis simply do not respond that way at all.

But, let's look at another part of the world, where you have two different Muslims groups fighting each other, instead of Israeli versus Muslim. Over in Iraq, where you have Muslims who are against each other, if one individual perpetrates violence on another individual (or to a group, like a bombing), well, you know what's going to happen next -- there's going to be a "counter-bombing" and a "counter-killing" to "even it up". And they go back and forth -- individually, or in groups like a mob -- going at each other, "tit for tat". It's not that way in Israel with the Israelis, but it is that way with the Muslims, towards each other.

Heck a few weeks ago, some Kurds up in the north stoned a young 17-year-old girl to death and a week or two later, some other group stopped a bus of 20 of those same people (who stoned the girl) and killed all 20. Do you hear that in Israel? Nope. Do you hear of some group of Israeli citizens going out and stopping a bus and killing everyone inside? Nope. Even when they get a bus blown up in Israel or a restaurant blown up or a wedding blown up, there is never a vigilante group of Israelis stampeding over into the Palestinian areas and killing a bunch of Muslims over there. It never happens. However, it sure happens in Iraq, with one group of Muslims going after another group of Muslims.

So, would the Americans be more like the crazy Muslims -- or -- would the Americans be more like the civilized Israelis. Now, that is an interesting question. Perhaps some people can enlighten me here and tell me which we would be more like.

In terms of Arafat getting 97% of what he wanted -- well..., it wouldn't have made any difference if he got 100% or even if he got 120% of what he wanted. The fact of the matter is that if he accepted a peace agreement with Israel, he would have been a dead man. He would have been killed by his own people. That's because his own people have been trained all their lives to know that every last single Jew has to be killed in the world. Their Koran says so. And they know that the Israelis have stolen their land; their leaders keep telling them so. And so, if any leader were to accept the fact that Israelis could remain alive and, to boot, keep their own country -- well..., before the Muslims would kill any more Jews, they would kill that leader first. Arafat wasn't dumb; he wasn't about to get assasinated. Why should he? So, no, he wasn't going to accept it even if they gave him 120% of what he asked for.

If this is what we'er talking about, BUILD THE WALL TO THE WEST BANK!

Well, here you're talking about something that is a "government thing" and not something that a single individual does, or a small group does. Only the government has the ability to affect policy to the extent that it would build a wall. And as far as our government is concerned, it does not look like it wants to do this. So, my guess is that nothing will be done to prevent the next big terrorist attack (on the level of 9/11 or bigger). The next one will probably be a nuclear explosion in one of our cities. And then, if that happens, well.., maybe the government will do something then. I figure our only hope of solving the problem is for the next attack to happen So, until that next major attack happens, I don't look for the government to do very much about it.

Regards,
Star Traveler