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Contact Senator George Allen, Senator Rick Santorum and Senator Jim Talent To STOP Amnesty
May 19, 2007 | new yorker 77

Posted on 05/19/2007 6:24:48 AM PDT by new yorker 77

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To: dirtboy

Whatever


61 posted on 05/19/2007 7:05:34 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: oldbill
Now people like you continue to support the Republican clowns in the Senate who ignored this illegal flood

And if Bush signs amnesty and that tears apart the GOP (and no less a figure than Rush says that is a distinct possibility), it STILL won't be their fault.

62 posted on 05/19/2007 7:05:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: dirtboy

Agreed.

But sometimes on a thread, that is all you get.

“Thanks to the dopes that stayed home”, & BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...

So, I thought I’d just ask the question and see what pops up for answers.


63 posted on 05/19/2007 7:06:50 AM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: dirtboy
You're right. On second look, I did say that you said what I said you said.
64 posted on 05/19/2007 7:06:57 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Nickname

I cajoled, begged and pleaded for folks to get out and vote to keep the GOP House in place. But at the end of the day, when you have Hastert more concerned about an FBI raid on a corrupt Dem congressman’s office than pushing core GOP principles, the GOP really didn’t give swing voters much of a reason to vote for them.


65 posted on 05/19/2007 7:08:22 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: new yorker 77
I don't know about anyone else on this board, but I am getting pretty F'n tired of people blaming the Republican voter for the crap going on now. All of the Republicans I know voted in 2006, the same cannot be said of the Independents.

Why don't you spew that crap where it belongs, against the Politicians who are causing this. Or are you one of the elite that thinks the Politicians are not to blame?

66 posted on 05/19/2007 7:09:29 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: dirtboy

Not just that, some of the RATS ran to the RIGHT of the Republicans (Schuler and Ellsworth come to mind) because the Republicans were so pathetic.


67 posted on 05/19/2007 7:10:23 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Mo1

So tell me, then - if Bush signs this abomination of an amnesty bill (one made possible by an alliance with Ted Kennedy and the Dems), would he bear any responsibility for the damage that will cause to the GOP?


68 posted on 05/19/2007 7:10:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: MNJohnnie
LOL, yep, I see alot of the rewriting of history here, amazing that the years-long, “lets teach them a lesson” crowd, suddenly will not own it.

Shall we post all the hundreds of threads, Conservative media articles, and comments by radio hosts who demanded that we punish for Foley, Hastert, Delay, spending, illegals, Iraq, Macacca, Santorum supporting a RINO, and on and on and on?

It has been every man for himself here for a long time now.

But look on the bright side, Bill Clinton as First Lady will be a hoot.

And President ObamaOsama will build a mosque in DC, and we will be as enlightened as Europe!

69 posted on 05/19/2007 7:10:38 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: DeusExMachina05
"Yes, we sheep must always show up to vote even when the party leaders dont follow the platform of the party, when you need water carried for the fools at the top, dont look to me."

Anyone arguing the validity of the "stay at home" factor in 2006 and 2008 need only read the comments posted on this thread.

You can argue, but the marks on your screen will defeat you.

70 posted on 05/19/2007 7:12:24 AM PDT by nctexan
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To: new yorker 77

Very poor analysis of why they lost. The ONLY people who voted for them were the conservatives. The wussy moderates went with the “moderate” democrats.


71 posted on 05/19/2007 7:14:30 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pnh102

Santorum got CRUSHED. Are you telling me there was another 200,000 conservatives available who sat home. Nonsense.


72 posted on 05/19/2007 7:17:25 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pnh102
These people who stayed at home are like spoiled children. Elections are NEVER about getting what you want. They are about choosing the candidate who is going to screw you the least.

LOL. Children may believe that they can make the correct choice but grownups have learned through experience that they get fooled everytime.
73 posted on 05/19/2007 7:17:41 AM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: LS

It looks to me that conservative turnout wasn’t the reason Santorum lost. It looks to me that the only midterm that conservatives skipped in recent years was Hafer in 1990.

2006: Casey Jr. 2.36 million, Santorum 1.66 million
2006: Rendell 2.43 million, Swann 1.60 million
2002: Rendell 1.91 million, Fisher 1.59 million
1998: Ridge 1.74 million, Itkin 0.94 million
1998: Specter 1.81 million, Lloyd 1.03 million
1994: Ridge 1.63 million, Singel 1.43 million
1994: Santorum 1.74 million, Wofford 1.65 million
1990: Casey Sr. 2.07 million, Hafer 0.99 million
1986: Casey Sr. 1.71 million, Scranton 1.63 million
1986: Specter 1.91 million, Edgar 1.45 million


74 posted on 05/19/2007 7:18:16 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: CJ Wolf
The republicans held the house for how long with Bush in office? how come nothing was done!!!!

I'll agree... but at least when the Republicans were in control, there was no way a shamnesty bill would pass. I know that the Republicans from 2001-2007 spent and grew government like Democrats... but all of us knew the Democrats would be worse, especially in terms of shamnesty. Ergo, do-nothing Republicans are preferable to screw-the-country dems. Now, all doubt has been removed.

75 posted on 05/19/2007 7:18:22 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: dirtboy

ANd conservative Jon Kyl and conservative John McCain were the co-authors of this.


76 posted on 05/19/2007 7:20:32 AM PDT by pissant
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To: new yorker 77

George Allen? Don’t you know Democrat Jim (my aides only carry firearms to shoot cockroaches) Webb is in there now?


77 posted on 05/19/2007 7:20:40 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: dirtboy
It's funny how FR works. You voice an opinion. If I disagree, I counter with my opinion.

How dare you! Disagree with nonsense.....that's their real problem, no one is buying the RINO talking points any more and it makes them crazy.

Funny, isn't it, how ALL the anti immigration propositions passed in the last election. But they can't admit the obvious.

One more time.

The lie, "anti-illegal immigration people cost the repubs the 2006 election!! The truth:11.5% of all Republican seats in Congress were lost as Democrats took back control of Congress But only 6.7% of the Members of Tancredo’s Immigration Reform Caucus lost their seats.AND- one of them was Hayworth who voted against HR 4437!

# 9.6% with an A grade lost

# 25.0% with an F grade lost

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/electionanalysis.html

78 posted on 05/19/2007 7:20:52 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: new yorker 77
These solid conservatives lost in 2006 because so-called conservatives were so angry about illegal immigration that they stayed home

Actually "conservatives stayed home" because they were concerned about a possible asteroid impact. There, that's my theory. It's just as good as yours and I have just as much evidence.

79 posted on 05/19/2007 7:22:50 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: new yorker 77

Great point new yorker 77! I love the sarcasm. Reminds me of how Rush will make a point. Thanks to all the idiot Republicans who stayed home the last election. They have nobody to blame but themselves for all that has happened and is going to happen.


80 posted on 05/19/2007 7:23:04 AM PDT by kcrackel
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