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Son of professor opposed to war is killed in Iraq
The Boston Globe ^ | 15 May 07 | Brian MacQuarrie

Posted on 05/15/2007 4:33:52 AM PDT by leadpenny

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To: leadpenny

Rest in peace, 1st Lt. Bacevich.


21 posted on 05/15/2007 7:34:38 AM PDT by gate2wire (Street Sense)
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To: GreyFriar

Agreed.

Prayers for the family.


22 posted on 05/15/2007 8:56:37 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (HONK IF YOU'VE SACKED TROY SMITH.)
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To: Steel Wolf
So you're ready to head over to Darfur, Zimbabwe and North Korea, then?

Are they threatening us?

23 posted on 05/15/2007 9:07:26 AM PDT by syriacus (Shock a lib today. Hand them a copy of the censorship rules imposed by Truman's govt in Jan., 1951.)
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To: leadpenny; ChenangoShooter.308; Kozak
I defend your right to make stupid and insensitive remarks, but neither of you are worthy of shining the Colonel’s boots.

Hear, hear.

24 posted on 05/15/2007 9:09:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: syriacus
Are they threatening us?

North Korea's way more a threat than Saddam's Iraq ever was.

25 posted on 05/15/2007 9:16:00 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: Romulus

Saddam was laughingly on his way to a comeback on the world scene when we invaded.


26 posted on 05/15/2007 9:17:26 AM PDT by syriacus (Shock a lib today. Hand them a copy of the censorship rules imposed by Truman's govt in Jan., 1951.)
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To: Romulus
North Korea's way more a threat than Saddam's Iraq ever was.

Should we invade them now?

27 posted on 05/15/2007 9:19:02 AM PDT by syriacus (Shock a lib today. Hand them a copy of the censorship rules imposed by Truman's govt in Jan., 1951.)
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To: syriacus

Pre-War “containment” of Saddam failed more each day.
1. The oil-for-food program was corrupt
2. The weapons inspections were a farce
3. US and allied planes were targeted
4. Uninspected flights to Baghdad gutted the sanctions
5. Terrorists were training in Iraq
6. Saddam supported terrorism - $25,000 to each family of a suicide bomber (Thanks, Prost1).
7. Saddam brutalized our fellow human beings

Saddam was thumbing his nose at decent people as he rewarded his collaborators in the UN and around the world.

Bush interrupted Saddam’s staging of a comeback.


28 posted on 05/15/2007 9:22:38 AM PDT by syriacus (Shock a lib today. Hand them a copy of the censorship rules imposed by Truman's govt in Jan., 1951.)
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To: syriacus
So you're ready to head over to Darfur, Zimbabwe and North Korea, then?

Are they threatening us?

What does that have to do with your point, about the inherent morality in stopping a rape? Does a rapist need to threaten me personally while violating someone else? Now you're invoking self defense, which is something else entirely.

So, since you equated it with rape, please explain how the victims in Darfur and North Korea don't warrant our rescue, but Iraq does.

29 posted on 05/15/2007 10:21:42 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: Romulus
"North Korea's way more a threat than Saddam's Iraq ever was."

Riight, CNN talking point?

-Saddam invaded two oil-producing neighbors in the space of 10 years.

-He supported anti-Western Islamic terrorism and hosted Al Queda training camps.

-Members of his government met with and may have been funding Mohammed Atta and 9/11.

-He developed and used chemical weapons on his own people and against his opponents in battle.

-He had a proven propensity to attack his oppenents outside the borders of Iraq.

-He attempted to assasinate a former US president who was visiting a neighboring country.

North Korea has done none of this, restricting its activity to South Korea.

This is FR, not DU or some CNN message board. You'll have to do better.

30 posted on 05/15/2007 10:55:59 AM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: Justa
You'll have to do better.

I gave up trying years ago. Some people are impervious to both facts and reason.

31 posted on 05/15/2007 11:45:20 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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From the Boston Herald:

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1001313


32 posted on 05/15/2007 4:42:09 PM PDT by leadpenny
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http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=1001417

Romney recalls former aide killed by IED in Iraq
By Associated Press
Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - Updated: 04:44 PM EST


33 posted on 05/15/2007 4:46:20 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: ChenangoShooter.308
I just hope he has more class than to ride the corpse around the country and through the airwaves a la Momma Sheehan.

Your right, a brilliant and noteworthy past does not affirm your future.
34 posted on 05/15/2007 5:45:36 PM PDT by smug (Free Ramos and Compean:)
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To: smug

Why does something that hasn’t happened, and no inidcation that it will, matter?


35 posted on 05/16/2007 4:39:43 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: syriacus; Steel Wolf
So you're ready to head over to Darfur, Zimbabwe and North Korea, then?

Are they threatening us?

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That wasn't the point you made at all, was it? Your analogy specifically called for US to be the world's policeman.

36 posted on 05/16/2007 4:54:01 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
hat wasn't the point you made at all, was it? Your analogy specifically called for US to be the world's policeman.

Not at all.

You missed the earlier part of the discussion, I'd guess.

Otherwise, you would know I was responding to the accusatory statement that what we were doing was immoral.

I was saying it was not immoral to help weaker people.

I was not saying we are obligated to solve everyone's problem

Just because a boy scout helps one little old lady across the street, does not obligate him to run around looking for other little old ladies to help.

37 posted on 05/17/2007 10:13:25 AM PDT by syriacus (Shock a lib today. Hand them a copy of the censorship rules imposed by Truman's govt in Jan., 1951.)
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To: syriacus

Nope, your point was clear to us, the US as world cop. You even used the word police to make your argument. If you want to spin away from it by all means, go ahead.


38 posted on 05/17/2007 11:35:27 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: leadpenny

“Katy Bacevich, 22, one of the soldier’s three sisters, recalled her brother as a born leader who answered a calling to serve his country. Andrew Bacevich joined the Army in July 2004 and had been stationed in Iraq since October with the Third Brigade Combat Team, First Cavalry Division.

“He felt it was an important thing to do, regardless of the war that was going on,” she said. Despite her father’s strong feelings about the conflict, Katy Bacevich said, “he never would discourage my brother from doing what he wanted to do.””

Speaks loudly for the father and the family he raised!!! The love and respect they have for each other


39 posted on 05/17/2007 11:39:48 AM PDT by malia (Rush * * Beck * * Free Republic * * and posts & links by SandRat * *)
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To: wtc911
Nope, your point was clear to us, the US as world cop. You even used the word police to make your argument. If you want to spin away from it by all means, go ahead.

As a mind reader, you would starve.

40 posted on 05/17/2007 1:10:31 PM PDT by syriacus (Shock a lib today. Hand them a copy of the censorship rules imposed by Truman's govt in Jan., 1951.)
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