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Governor takes heat on climate deals
Sac Bee ^ | 5/13/07 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 05/13/2007 9:08:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has boosted his environmental profile by signing global warming agreements with states and foreign governments, most recently one this month with the Australian state of Victoria.

Schwarzenegger officials say the agreements are intended to force the federal government to take a more stringent approach to tackling global warming.

But some critics note the signings have given Schwarzenegger opportunities for photo-ops with foreign leaders, and Democrats have raised concerns that the Republican governor is using the deals to predispose California to a market-based system in which companies can buy their way out of emissions reductions.

Each of the agreements Schwarzenegger has signed calls for research into how California companies can trade emissions credits with firms in other regions.

Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez, D-Los Angeles, said he fears Schwarzenegger is advancing a global trading system well before California regulators agree to use that approach. Núñez co-wrote last year's landmark Assembly Bill 32 requiring a 25 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020.

"I would be much more confident if the governor put the brakes on carbon-trading agreements with other entities and stepped on the gas on the implementation of AB 32, which requires real reductions in emissions levels," Núñez said. "I wish there would be more focus on emissions reductions and less on carbon credit markets."

In negotiating last year's law, Democrats wanted to focus heavily on strict emissions caps in California, while Schwarzenegger sought to allow businesses to purchase credits if they could not reduce their greenhouse gas pollution in time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 05/13/2007 9:08:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
in which companies can buy their way out of emissions reductions.

They can do so by purchasing wind power from here in Texas...at a substantial premium of course.
2 posted on 05/13/2007 9:26:33 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s a scam that threatens to grow to “biblical” proportions.


3 posted on 05/13/2007 10:17:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Any person who does not know that the climates on all the planets in our solar system are controlled by the sun is an idiot. Man does not control the climate on this planet or on any other planet in our solar system. Carbon offset buying is a scam run to collect money off idiots.


4 posted on 05/13/2007 11:12:15 AM PDT by abclily
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To: NormsRevenge

“Democrats have raised concerns that the Republican governor is using the deals to predispose California to a market-based system in which companies can buy their way out of emissions reductions.”

Raised concerns? Carbon Trading IS the Democrats’ approach.

The national folk need to get the locals head on straight. Carbon Trading Yes!


5 posted on 05/13/2007 1:21:21 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: NormsRevenge
But some critics note the signings have given Schwarzenegger opportunities for photo-ops with foreign leaders, and Democrats have raised concerns that the Republican governor is using the deals to predispose California to a market-based system in which companies can buy their way out of emissions reductions.

"I would be much more confident if the governor put the brakes on carbon-trading agreements with other entities and stepped on the gas on the implementation of AB 32, which requires real reductions in emissions levels," Núñez said. "I wish there would be more focus on emissions reductions and less on carbon credit markets."

 

6 posted on 05/13/2007 3:55:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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But some critics note the signings have given Schwarzenegger opportunities for photo-ops with foreign leaders, and Democrats have raised concerns that the Republican governor is using the deals to predispose California to a market-based system in which companies can buy their way out of emissions reductions.

"I would be much more confident if the governor put the brakes on carbon-trading agreements with other entities and stepped on the gas on the implementation of AB 32, which requires real reductions in emissions levels," Núñez said. "I wish there would be more focus on emissions reductions and less on carbon credit markets."

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7 posted on 05/13/2007 4:00:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: NormsRevenge
the agreements are intended to force the federal government

It probably doesn't work that way. It doesn't work perfectly the other way either, but in no way is California going to commit the rest of the States and Territories to anything.

8 posted on 05/13/2007 4:01:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has boosted his environmental profile by signing global warming agreements with states and foreign governments, most recently one this month with the Australian state of Victoria.

Not that anyone pays attention to the Constitution these days, but:

Article I, Section 10
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;...

Article I, Section 8
The Congress shall have Power ...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States...

9 posted on 05/13/2007 4:55:41 PM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: NormsRevenge; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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10 posted on 05/13/2007 5:26:08 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: LexBaird; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...
This accidental and disasterous Governor is so self-centered and so convinced that he's the second coming of Hiram Johnson and Earl Warren, both RINO's of the worst kind throughout history that ran roughshod over many constitutional concepts that have hurt rural CA over the years.

Plus, he thinks he's the reincarnation of Teddy Roosevelt who changed all constitutional thinking up to T.R.'s time in the Presidency. He too was an I will not be denied kind of bull moose and unlike all his predecessors, believed that if the constitution didn't forbid it, it permitted the Presidency to do it, no matter what it was.

I think it's time to slow Mr. Schwartzenegger down with a legal challenge as the courts are our only defense against "the tyranny of the majority" in our CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC!!!

It's about time the courts took a break from legislating and started helping us slow down the explosive growth of government, especially this venturing into illegal/unconstitutional agreements and commitments with other Non-USA states and governments.

Arnold, with his creation of additional layers of government and now this crappola of committing us to other Non-American governments is NOT fulfilling anyone's dream when they voted to Recall Gray Davis!!! He's done nothing but make things far worse than even Davis even thought about!!!

11 posted on 05/13/2007 9:56:05 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: NormsRevenge; SierraWasp

This is not what I wanted to read just before going to bed. I wanted to dream about my disastrous day at the races...


12 posted on 05/13/2007 10:27:21 PM PDT by tubebender (Watching grass dry and mowing the paint since 1933...)
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To: tubebender

Wull, didja git any sleep, tubular one??? (grimace)


13 posted on 05/14/2007 12:39:10 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: SierraWasp; Grampa Dave
I took 2 Tylenol PM and didn’t wake up until my diaper started leaking...
14 posted on 05/14/2007 3:56:46 PM PDT by tubebender (Watching grass dry and mowing the paint since 1933...)
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To: LexBaird
Not that anyone pays attention to the Constitution these days, but: Article I, Section 10 No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;... Article I, Section 8 The Congress shall have Power ...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States...

THANK YOU!!!

I was hoping there were a few educated posters on this site.
Now if only 2% of California's poopulation (spelling intentional) was educated [properly]...

15 posted on 05/14/2007 4:12:12 PM PDT by jcparks (Claire, I'm afraid its time)
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To: SierraWasp; jcparks

You’re being panned over her...


16 posted on 05/14/2007 4:23:52 PM PDT by tubebender (Watching grass dry and mowing the paint since 1933...)
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To: tubebender

Ya but, I’ve never know ya to try drivin 1,000 miles on a full diaper!!! Phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht!!!


17 posted on 05/14/2007 4:41:39 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: tubebender
"You’re being panned over her..."

Which "her?" You mean bed-panned? Wha???

18 posted on 05/14/2007 4:47:04 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: SierraWasp; tubebender
Sheesh! I go away for the weekend then come home, check my pings, and I have ta try to figure out how to enter into this discussion? ROFL!
19 posted on 05/14/2007 10:01:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

What discussion? We’re both goin over the hill, I think.(grimace)


20 posted on 05/14/2007 10:08:04 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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