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As Number of Police Raids Increase, So Do Questions
New York Times ^ | 5/16/1998 | Michael Cooper

Posted on 05/09/2007 12:00:34 PM PDT by dashing doofus

EW YORK -- Mary and Cornelius Jefferson were turning in for the night last June 24 when they heard the deafening boom of a battering ram tearing the front door of their Bronx apartment from its hinges.

"They kept on banging until the whole door had splintered," said Mrs. Jefferson, 63. "I thought they were coming to rob us, coming to kill us."

When the door gave way, it was not robbers but police officers who burst in, armed with pistols and a search warrant. The warrant -- based on the word of a paid confidential informer with a criminal record -- told of a young Hispanic man who was selling cocaine from the apartment. Instead the police found a terrified couple in their 60s, living in a meticulous apartment where plastic slipcovers protect the sofas and diplomas and awards line the walls

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I was searching for this article for a while. This is what life will look like under former prosecutor Rudy Giuliani. No knock raids will expand. Fourth Amendment rights will be obliterated.

Second Amendment will be completely and thoroughly neutered.

Taxpayer funded abortion on demand, of course, will be protected.

Hillarudy must be stopped!

1 posted on 05/09/2007 12:00:38 PM PDT by dashing doofus
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To: dashing doofus

If these people owned guns, they would likely still be sponging dead cop off the front porch.


2 posted on 05/09/2007 12:02:34 PM PDT by Grunthor (Sorry, short attention span, I just....oooh something shiny!)
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To: dashing doofus

I hope that Fred Thompson is the Republican nominee for President. But I gotta say, I think this article and your admitting that you had to search for it, goes a bit too far.


3 posted on 05/09/2007 12:04:29 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: traviskicks

PING!

Life under Rudy = more no-knock raids?

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/


4 posted on 05/09/2007 12:06:13 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Grunthor

Probably, since this occurred in Rudy’s police state of NYC, they would be arrested since handguns are (for all practical purposes) outlawed in NYC, and long arms need to be stored locked and unloaded.

In NYC, you are supposed to call 911, then wait. That way the police know where to deliver the body bags and where to collect the evidence.


5 posted on 05/09/2007 12:06:28 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Why? Rudy is busy trying to reinvent history.


6 posted on 05/09/2007 12:08:17 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: dashing doofus

What ever happened to, “Open up in the name of the law!”? What’s the fascination with battering in doors? Policemen must have brothers-in-law employed as carpenters or something.


7 posted on 05/09/2007 12:08:24 PM PDT by hardworking (The biggest problem we have is the lack of term limits in the U.S. Senate.)
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To: dashing doofus

Sounds like you are trying to stretch a little bit of your own. No-knock raids and severe gun control existed in New York a long time before Rudy.


8 posted on 05/09/2007 12:09:38 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: hardworking

Might have something to do with not giving every potential armed criminal on the premises the chance to train their weapons on the front door!


9 posted on 05/09/2007 12:11:34 PM PDT by clearlight ("I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula"-Muhammad)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I never said, nor implied, that Rudy INVENTED the no-knock raid.

But, just for your infomation, prior to becoming mayor, Rudy was a Federal Prosecutor and embraced these raids. He is quoted as stating that (I’m paraphasing before you get out the google search), that freedom means submitting to the authorities. I’m sure someone has the actual quote.


10 posted on 05/09/2007 12:12:12 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: dashing doofus
In NYC, you are supposed to call 911, then wait. That way the police know where to deliver the body bags and where to collect the evidence.

With a murder/violent crime rate that is a fraction of the rate in gun-slinging, Red State Utopias like Jacksonville, Charlotte, Mobile, DFW, Houston, Phoenix, Denver, Tulsa, Orlando, Memphis, Atlanta, and Birmingham, the vast, overwhelming majority of law abiding people in New York City don't need to worry about body bags.

11 posted on 05/09/2007 12:17:39 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: dashing doofus

Dateline “Ew York” - was that a Freudian slip(cover)?


12 posted on 05/09/2007 12:18:25 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: dashing doofus

Officers who participate in no-knock raids are asking for trouble. They should realize that being wrong but alive is far better than being right and dead.


13 posted on 05/09/2007 12:18:36 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Discrimination against Muslims is acceptable if we are to survive.)
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To: clearlight

“Might have something to do with not giving every potential armed criminal on the premises the chance to train their weapons on the front door!”

That’s real flimsy. Drug dealers don’t get into shootouts with cops. They can get a better deal going down, and be back out on the street by breakfast.

Professional dealers usually shoot other dealers.

You forget. The original justification for “no knock” was so the dealers couldn’t “flush” the evidence.


14 posted on 05/09/2007 12:20:45 PM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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bump


15 posted on 05/09/2007 12:21:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pissant; Spiff; Liz; NapkinUser; Ultra Sonic 007

I remember this story!


16 posted on 05/09/2007 12:23:15 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Grunthor
If these people owned guns, they would likely still be sponging dead cop off the front porch.

So true.

17 posted on 05/09/2007 12:24:00 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Dyson vacuums - they suck like a drunk prom queen.)
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To: dashing doofus

The people in the article are just lucky that they did not end up dead like the 94-year old woman in Atlanta. The one they planted drugs on after murdering her.


18 posted on 05/09/2007 12:26:39 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Labyrinthos

That couple needed to worry.


19 posted on 05/09/2007 12:28:21 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Redbob

Innocent mistake — doofus.


20 posted on 05/09/2007 12:29:04 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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