Illegals love our laws...see!
Posted on 05/04/2007 1:24:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
LOS ANGELES - Immigration advocates are struggling to frame images of this week's clash between police and protesters in a way that promotes their cause, with some activists considering using the event to attract supporters.
Some advocates believe the police action against mostly peaceful demonstrators could add urgency to efforts to create a path to citizenship for the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.
But others worry the reform movement could be blamed for the melee and that immigrants will be afraid to participate in future demonstrations.
"These kinds of situations, if they are framed properly, can be a powerful inducement to get people to continue organizing," said Armando Navarro, coordinator of the National Alliance for Human Rights, an umbrella organization for Hispanic groups in Southern California.
The alliance plans a series of meetings next week to discuss how to respond to the clash, Navarro said.
Jorge Mario Cabrera, an organizer of Tuesday's MacArthur Park rally, said many people are still in shock over what happened.
"Right now it's a painful few days that we need to get through," said Cabrera, associate director of Carecen, a Hispanic advocacy group in Los Angeles. "We are very concerned that this incident will quiet down many of the voices that were coming out."
The confrontation began when police tried to disperse demonstrators who moved into a street, according to rally organizers and reporters. Authorities said several people threw rocks and bottles at officers, who then used batons to push the crowd back to the sidewalk before sweeping through the park.
News videos showed officers striking people, including journalists and women, with batons and firing rubber bullets into crowds that included children.
The footage showed police knocking a television cameraman to the ground and shoving protesters who were following orders. People could be seen with injuries from the rubber bullets, including a Hispanic man with bleeding welts on his stomach and back.
The use of force was criticized by politicians and many media and civil rights organizations.
The Los Angeles rally was just one of dozens held Tuesday across the country. The protests were small compared with those held in spring 2006, in part because many illegal immigrants are afraid public events make them easy targets of federal deportation raids.
Police Chief William J. Bratton has ordered investigations and said he would meet with FBI officials to discuss a potential federal inquiry with the hope of dispelling any claims that police had targeted immigrants.
Octavio Pescador, a Chicano studies professor at the University of California in Los Angeles, said the melee will change the tone of the immigration-reform debate.
"Immigrant groups will argue, 'We just came to work and look how they treat us,'" Pescador said. "Anti-illegal immigrant groups will also use it to their advantage, and argue police were provoked."
Joshua Hoyt, executive director of the Illinois Coalition of Immigrant and Refugee Rights, said the confrontation could encourage more people to attend protests.
"It's clearly a further polarization of the issue," Hoyt said. "If Congress fails to act, this polarization is only going to get worse."
Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors limits on immigration, said the anarchist groups being blamed for throwing bottles are often present at immigration rallies.
"I wouldn't accuse most of the protesters of sympathizing with these radical elements, but at the same time they need to take responsibility for distancing themselves from those groups," Mehlman said.
The protesters, not the police, were at fault.
How many times must it be said? They ain’s immigrants, they’re illegal aliens.
They prompted the confrontation themselves because they thought it would work to their advantage politically, or PR-wise. Personally, it just re-inforces my view that we need to tighten up the border.
Deport the organizers of the marches, they are encouraging the breaking of our federal laws.
The SDS and other violent anti-war groups would try their best to provoke us in DC in the early 70s. We usually responded by beating the sh!t out of them. Cameras be damned.
So I guess back to wherever they came from is out of the question...
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“Immigration groups ponder next move”
How about going home?
This is too easy but okay I’ll take a shot at it.
Their next move will be to cry racism, the police disregarded their civil rights, and the government (pick a sector) owes each and every one of them millions.
Next!
“immigrants will be afraid to participate in future demonstrations”
Nooooooooo Not to worry...
I’m an immigrant and I had fun on May 1st...
I stood all day on the sidewalk outside our county courthouse with a big sign and a US flag and enjoyed myself...
My sign said. “ILLEGAL ALIENS...GO BACK HOME...TAKE YOUR ANCHOR BABIES”...
Nope I’m looking forward too my next “demonstration”...
:)
“several people threw rocks and bottles at officers, who then used batons to push the crowd back to the sidewalk before sweeping through the park”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I didn’t throw rocks and bottles at the police and they didn’t disturb my 1st Amendment right under COTUS “peaceably to assemble”...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I’m an American citizen with 1st Amendment rights under COTUS, and I was nice.......
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
They are illegal aliens and dont have 1st Amendment rights under COTUS and they were rioting and intentionally injuring the local law enforcement....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Illegals love our laws...see!
: )
Actually its possible that the trouble makers are neither
Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which favors limits on immigration, said the anarchist groups being blamed for throwing bottles are often present at immigration rallies.
"I wouldn't accuse most of the protesters of sympathizing with these radical elements, but at the same time they need to take responsibility for distancing themselves from those groups," Mehlman said.
Sounds more like our good friends from the Workers World Party, I wonder if they were wearing red and black bandannas over their faces. Little ironies: the anarchists wear uniforms.
THE NEXT MOVE IS SOUTH.....SOUTH......SOUTH>>>>
Just can't get my brain around that.
Worse are the people here that think it's all OKAY!
We will see what happens tomorrow
Cinco De Mayo
Baldwin Park SOS Rally
and
TAKE BACK THE PARK at Macarthur Park
Bullseye!
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