I can’t see how non judicial information can be held against a person without some appeal process. Suppose someone is placed against their will in a psychiatric facility and the doc finds that their placement there wasn’t appropriate; are they still going to be disallowed their 2nd amendment right? Can they appeal the decision? Will all mentally disabled people have to be registered? Boy, this adds up to a real big brother computer, and I don’t support it. Freedom sometimes requires that people die in war; unfortunately, sometimes civilians will have to die in the peace—otherwise freedom itself may become the first casualty.
AFAIK, "involuntary commitment" DOES, in most states, involve some or other judicial process.
Y'know, if they're not stable enough to be trusted with a firearms purchase, they're probably not mentally stable enough to make an informed decision about an abortion, either, another decision upon which innocent life depends.... Surely it's no great inconvenience for those wanting an abortion to show proper identification and sign the abortion registry, wait for clearance from the National Instant-Check system, and then go about the business of their procedure.
Why, if it saved the life of one innocent child, or the mental health of even one unbalanced mother, it'd be worth it....
"Adjudicated" means that there was a legal process and that this isn't non-judicial information. It has never been the tradition in the US that mental defectives have rights under the 2nd Amendment. (Ann Coulter thinks that mental defectives shouldn't have 1st Amendment rights either; but how could we make fun of liberals if they aren't allowed to say anything?)
I’m with you. I’m very disappointed in the NRA and gun-rights advocates like Larry Craig who are supporting this piece of garbage. They should know by now that Carolyn McCarthy and Up-chuck Schumer are not our friends! They may claim, for now, that their bills apply only to people commited involuntarily and not to those who seek help on their own, but anyone who cares about the 2nd Amendment should know that it won’t stop there.
More importantly, government tentacles do not belong in our medical records, period! Anyone deemed a threat to self or others should be hospitalized for the duration of the condition. People who are treated successfully, or whose mental “defect” is not likely to cause violence, have the same constitutional right to self-defense as you and I.
The horror of the VT incident is undeniable, but it should not be used as an excuse to revoke parts of the Constitution. AFter all, the massacre might have been prevented if all college students, Asian-Americans, or males were prohibited from gun-ownership, but is that the way to go?