Detention Without Physical Examination of -All- Vegetable Protein Products From China...

US Food and Drug Administration ^ | Tuesday May 1, 2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

[xjcsa]

This article states the numbers of autism cases have risen 440% in the last 15 years just in California alone.

I've read that the rise in autism is *entirely* attributable to a shift in diagnosis methodology and definitions, rather than an *actual* rise in the number of cases. Don't know if it's true, but I've seen the claim made multiple times.

[GovernmentShrinker]

It’s important to keep in mind that the melamine itself is not the cause of the illnesses and deaths. The melamine has been there for years. What’s new is a second contaminant, believed to be cyanuric acid, that reacts with melamine to form the toxic substance. There seems to be a huge obsession now with tracking down the sources of melamine, and screening products for melamine content, when it’s the other substance that set off the rash of illnesses and deaths. But I haven’t heard a peep about where the cyanuric acid came from, and I have to think it could react with other things too (like the melamine in many food containers, and other completely different substances). Cyanuric acid is used for pool cleaning, and I suspect the answer is that it recently started to be used in equipment cleaning at food processing plants in Asia, probably in an honest attempt to improve sanitation. I’m puzzled about the lack of focus on this.

[xjcsa]

I wonder if anyone has a list of stores, companies, etc., that only uses American sources, products, etc,. in foods...

Here's the list:

Short list.

[CJ Wolf]

This rate of increase pretty much ties in with the way autism reporting has changed. At least that’s the official line.

[mvpel]

Kosher food suppliers may be better off than many.

[azhenfud]

The company I work for does a lot of upfits for dialysis centers. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a specific healthcare segment grow as fast in the past five years as renal care has.

[keeper53]

ouch!
Probably correct...

I guess we go organic and locally grown as much as possible?!

[dandelion]

Pioneer Brand Flour says they do not import any product for their flour, and you can order online...

https://www.chguenther.com/store/
1-800-531-7912

I actually called Pioneer Flour on the phone to ask them if they imported ANY of their flour or supplies; they told me flat out that they DO NOT IMPORT ANY OF THEIR SUPPLIES. They said their wheat comes mostly from Kansas, and all of their other products are U.S. made as well...

I am asking their sales rep to send me a spec sheet so I can have it in writing, for confirmation.

Whether or not this applies to their mixes I do not know - please call and ask them to ask where they get their wheat and corn - you’ll get a real person in Texas!!

[keeper53]

Good suggestion.

[keeper53]

Thanks for that information!

[Milwaukee_Guy]

After six weeks we still don’t know the exact nature of the pet, and now human food contamination.

That is the scary part and signifies the importance of the FDA’s latest action.

Pet are the “canary in the coal mine”. What happens to them, will soon happen to us.

The US food supply is contaminated and we are still stumbling along attempting to determine the true scope and cause.

[Joan Kerrey]

What if it had been babies dying?

Probably no change. Blocking free trade wouldn’t be good for the economy. Also we don’t want to upset China. We must proceed cautiously. It’s probably our fault anyway. /sarc off

[poobear]

While I’ll agree that that reporting seems to appear in almost every article, I find it quite alarming that just 15 years ago, 1992, they diagnosed 3 year olds staring into space, showing signs of strange movement and not talking with anything else.

May daughter born in 1995 would have been diagnosed in her first 2 years with the pediatricians she went to. They kept quite a detailed chart on her cognitive development. They looked for autism.

[Joan Kerrey]

Eat nothing from China.

Right on. I noticed at Von’s market yesterday that apple juice under the store brand had a stamp on it (tiny in black) which was difficult to even see. “Product of China”.
I looked because it was 1/3 the cost of other apple juice brands. Needless to say I didn’t buy it and chose the more expensive U.S. brand. If the price hadn’t been SO low I might have purchased without looking. You have to check the print on everything these days, EVERYTHING!!!!

[Joan Kerrey]

I sent Iams an email asking if they used any ingredients from China. They didn’t respond. ============ i STILL see IAMS at the pet stores. I buy MAX adult chicken, lamb and rice and so far it's not on any list. Other MAX products are listed so be careful. I'm feeding my dog less of canned food and becoming her private chef now most of the time, mixing in canned food a little at a time.

[keeper53]

That is why I asked if there is a “list” of any sort earlier. This will get fairly complicated!

[US_MilitaryRules]

I just emailed Orowheat for info on flour products used in their bread.

[Joan Kerrey]

Why isn’t all Chinese food banned? Hello!?!?!? ================ And upset China?? We must be cautious here. /sarc off

[ApplegateRanch]

All that "fertilizer' in the foods could also explain the 'obesity epidemic'.

"Jest cain't hep but gro, iff'n y'all put soma this on in it!"